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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul  [was: mykie.el]
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:32:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhyqojbq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87lhyrgnrw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:

> Grim Schjetne writes:
>
>  > I viewed a random package in Marmalade and it had no indication of a
>  > license whatsoever. Perhaps the author intended to release it as free
>  > software
>
> If so, it *is* free software.  It's just very risky for users, because
> without a verifiable statement of license, the author could change his
> mind and the users would have no recourse.

A user does not have a "recourse" anyway.  The author can always change
his mind even with a verifiable statement of license and sue.  A
verifiable statement of license is no help against that, but it is a
good defense.  Note that in the U.S.A., the financial risk of even a
meritless lawsuit is enough of a detraction for anybody: only in the
case of _frivolous_ lawsuits (and the barrier for that is rather high)
does the defendant get to reclaim his court fees and attorney costs.

> True, failing to post a license violates best practices, but it's
> unlikely that even a patent shark would upload a file to Marmalade in
> the hopes that they could sue users for enough money to pay court
> costs.

That's not the shark model for small fry.  The shark model is to sue
and/or send a cease and desist letter, then settle out of court for less
than the cost of a successful defense.

> It would be nice if the repos would enforce a policy of removing
> packages that do not contain an explicit statement of license.

Yes, definitely.

-- 
David Kastrup




  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-08 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-03 20:09 mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 21:37 ` mykie.el Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-04  1:08   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06 22:47     ` mykie.el, mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-06 23:00       ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-06 23:42         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-07  0:29           ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07  1:08             ` Eric Brown
2014-01-07  5:39               ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07  8:33                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-07  8:38                 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 14:41                 ` Grim Schjetne
2014-01-07 15:12                   ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-07 17:44                     ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 20:55                       ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-08 11:52                         ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-08 13:19                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-08 14:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 17:19                       ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul Glenn Morris
2014-01-07 17:44                   ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-08  3:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08  4:26                       ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-08 10:50                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-08 17:54                         ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-09  3:00                           ` Andy Moreton
2014-01-09  6:55                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-09  7:55                           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 11:24                             ` chad
2014-01-09 18:15                             ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-08  3:23                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08 10:32                     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-01-07 16:53             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08  3:15               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08  9:27                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <<a62bb795-44d9-44dd-b17a-d5294c21d2b0@default>
     [not found]             ` <<E1W0Zto-0000A5-VX@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-07 17:44               ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 16:16         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07 17:44           ` Drew Adams
2014-01-08  3:41             ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04  2:02   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-04  4:34 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  8:36   ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-05  8:10   ` mykie.el Mitchel Humpherys
2014-01-05 10:29     ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-06 16:09   ` mykie.el Nicolas Richard
2014-01-06 22:38   ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07  0:37     ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 23:21       ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08  3:24         ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 15:44           ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 16:11             ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 16:38               ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 17:24                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09  8:13               ` mykie.el Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 15:29                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09 18:43                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-11 20:23                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 14:45                     ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 18:32                       ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 19:46                         ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 22:51                           ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13  3:38                             ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13  4:59                               ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13 14:03                                 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13 16:09                                   ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-08 21:21             ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06  5:31 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada

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