* Timestamps - anything goes?
@ 2014-01-30 16:54 Thorsten Jolitz
2014-01-30 17:59 ` Bastien
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From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2014-01-30 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi List,
(headline) timestamps, deadlines, scheduled and closed items are parsed
into timestamp lists with the following attributes:
- timestamp-type
- start date
- start time
- end date
- end time
- repeater-type
- repeater-value
- repeater-unit
Not all attributes seem to make sense for each element (closed as time
range? deadline with repeater?) and not all combinations of
timestamps/planning info seem reasonable (closed & scheduled later on).
Is there any restriction in the use of planning/time info other than
common sense? If so, what are the ruled-out combinations and attribute
assignments?
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-01-30 16:54 Timestamps - anything goes? Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2014-01-30 17:59 ` Bastien
2014-01-30 18:17 ` Thorsten Jolitz
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From: Bastien @ 2014-01-30 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thorsten Jolitz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
> Is there any restriction in the use of planning/time info other than
> common sense? If so, what are the ruled-out combinations and attribute
> assignments?
Common sense applies, but it applies best to examples.
I guess the question is too abstract for anyone to give
a useful answer -- what problem are you trying to solve?
--
Bastien
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-01-30 17:59 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-30 18:17 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-01-30 19:26 ` Bastien
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From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2014-01-30 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
Hi Bastien ,
> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Is there any restriction in the use of planning/time info other than
>> common sense? If so, what are the ruled-out combinations and attribute
>> assignments?
>
> Common sense applies, but it applies best to examples.
> I guess the question is too abstract for anyone to give
> a useful answer -- what problem are you trying to solve?
There are actually several questions:
1. can deadlines be time-ranges?
2. in time-ranges, can both entries have repeaters?
3. can deadline and closed have repeaters?
4. are any combinations of deadline and scheduled valid?
5. ...
i.e. I want to find out which timestamp-attributes are (or should be)
neve used for which planning-element, and which combinations of these
elements are (or should be) strictly forbidden.
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-01-30 18:17 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2014-01-30 19:26 ` Bastien
2014-01-31 12:39 ` Thorsten Jolitz
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From: Bastien @ 2014-01-30 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thorsten Jolitz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
> 1. can deadlines be time-ranges?
No.
> 2. in time-ranges, can both entries have repeaters?
No.
> 3. can deadline and closed have repeaters?
No.
> 4. are any combinations of deadline and scheduled valid?
Yes!
> i.e. I want to find out which timestamp-attributes are (or should be)
> neve used for which planning-element, and which combinations of these
> elements are (or should be) strictly forbidden.
This does not really tell why, but maybe it's a secret :)
--
Bastien
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-01-30 19:26 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-31 12:39 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-02-03 12:36 ` Sebastien Vauban
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From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2014-01-31 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
Hi Bastien,
> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> 1. can deadlines be time-ranges?
>
> No.
>
>> 2. in time-ranges, can both entries have repeaters?
>
> No.
>
>> 3. can deadline and closed have repeaters?
>
> No.
>
>> 4. are any combinations of deadline and scheduled valid?
>
> Yes!
Thanks, I had similar ideas but wanted to hear another opinion for
reinsurance.
>> i.e. I want to find out which timestamp-attributes are (or should be)
>> neve used for which planning-element, and which combinations of these
>> elements are (or should be) strictly forbidden.
> This does not really tell why, but maybe it's a secret :)
Sort of ... maybe more info in the future ;)
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-01-31 12:39 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2014-02-03 12:36 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-03 13:08 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-02-03 14:54 ` Bastien
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From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2014-02-03 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Thorsten Jolitz wrote:
> Bastien <bzg-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> 3. can deadline and closed have repeaters?
>>
>> No.
Not true for the first item: deadlines _can_ have repeaters:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
** TODO Test
DEADLINE: <2014-02-04 Tue +1d>
:LOGBOOK:
- State "TODO" -> "DONE" [2014-02-03 Mon 13:35]
:END:
:PROPERTIES:
:LAST_REPEAT: [2014-02-03 Mon 13:35]
:END:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sebastien Vauban
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-02-03 12:36 ` Sebastien Vauban
@ 2014-02-03 13:08 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-02-03 14:54 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2014-02-03 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
"Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news@mygooglest.com>
writes:
> Thorsten Jolitz wrote:
>> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>>> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> 3. can deadline and closed have repeaters?
>>>
>>> No.
>
> Not true for the first item: deadlines _can_ have repeaters:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ** TODO Test
> DEADLINE: <2014-02-04 Tue +1d>
> :LOGBOOK:
> - State "TODO" -> "DONE" [2014-02-03 Mon 13:35]
> :END:
> :PROPERTIES:
> :LAST_REPEAT: [2014-02-03 Mon 13:35]
> :END:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
ok, makes sense
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: Timestamps - anything goes?
2014-02-03 12:36 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-03 13:08 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2014-02-03 14:54 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-02-03 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
"Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@public.gmane.org>
writes:
> Not true for the first item: deadlines _can_ have repeaters:
Of course, yes, I stand corrected. Thanks Sébastien!
--
Bastien
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