From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 13:20:40 +0900 Message-ID: <87lhvomkfb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5335C336.3080108@dancol.org> <87mwg9nti0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ioqxdzax.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha6hngak.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83k3bacs02.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppl1n2k2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g79cc66.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396526158 1916 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2014 11:55:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 03 13:55:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVeLj-0002WE-MW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:54:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVChr-0008Ii-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVChh-0008Hc-JN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVCha-0008J1-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:57293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVChR-0007Zu-IZ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:22:53 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B0B9708F3; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 13:20:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 42B4E1A28DC; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 13:20:40 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <837g79cc66.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171266 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It would be madness IMO for Emacs to require legal paperwork from > everyone who at some point participated in some design discussion > here, which later got implemented, Of course that would be madness. What you're ignoring is that we're talking not just about participation in design discussion, but *also* implementation by a person who is intimately familiar with and participated another implementation of the same feature with the same design that is not assigned, and is highly unlikely to ever be assigned. In that case if there were enough similarity that the FSF were taken to court and the case not dismissed immediately, the "it's just an accident" argument would not fly in court because it would be easy to show that I know a lot about the XEmacs implementation, and I personally would undoubtedly be at best greatly inconvenienced by being called to testify, at worst liable for damages (remember, in that case the FSF assignment makes me liable for FSF's court costs and damages, and that agreement doesn't contain mitigating circumstances like "in good faith" or "invited by Eli Z"). No, thank you.