From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start (was: Generating a listing of all symbols) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:36:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87lhuzivqq.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <9c8cbdb3-abe9-4aae-af60-761d0c042c67@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398026231 23696 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2014 20:37:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Hans BKK Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 22:37:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbyTz-0001Hf-Tt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:37:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46600 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbyTz-0000Re-H9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48623) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbyTh-0000RP-Il for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbyTZ-0002o1-7M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:36:41 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp02.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.8]:36043) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbyTY-0002g9-W9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail04.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.17]) by outbound-smtp02.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A561DC039 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 8979 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2014 20:36:30 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.78.176.165]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 20 Apr 2014 20:36:30 -0000 In-Reply-To: <9c8cbdb3-abe9-4aae-af60-761d0c042c67@googlegroups.com> (message from Hans BKK on Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97274 Archived-At: Hans BKK writes: > I also didn't mean to put so much focus on the keybindings issue, just > that's why I'm holding off on the hands-on usage for the moment until > I've got a good set in mind, checking out the various key popular > packages bundled in these "out of the box" starter kits is also part of > the project. I don't use the starter kits, but in general they don't change the default keybindings much. Often they do things like displaying a different buffer menu if C-x C-b is pressed. But that doesn't really change the meaning of the C-x C-b is still means "bring up the buffer menu". As far as I can tell from it's documentation Emacs-starter-kit changes nothing. Prelude makes the following changes: * C-M-h is changed from mark-defun to backward kill word. * C-- is changed from negative argument to shrink font. * C-x m is changed from write email to eshell. * M-o is changed from set face to insert line with indentation. Graphene makes only one significant change C-x k always kills the current buffer. Default Emacs asks for a buffer to kill and default to the current one. You're not likely to notice any of those differences for a long time. Using C-x m for eshell instead of email would confuse me, that's the only big change though. Regular Emacs and all the starter kits come with cua-mode and evil so you can use CUA or VI keybindings if you want. BR, Robert Thorpe