From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: York Zhao <gtdplatform@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, solidius4747@gmail.com
Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:06:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhq2b28u.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD3zm23Bwv_bciTREE-DDPpqi0F89kpgSjnq3aZWyDh_oT2yFg@mail.gmail.com> (York Zhao's message of "Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:49:00 -0400")
Left and right arrow! That's useful to know. Still not as convienient as
tab and return (espectially on laptops), but better than double presses.
Phil
York Zhao <gtdplatform@gmail.com> writes:
> I've been using Helm for many years, and it has been a fundamental part of my
> Emacs system. However, I also don't like `helm-find-file', and I agree ido is
> much better in this. By the way, in `helm-find-file', you may want to try using
> the left arrow to go to the parent directory, not as good as in ido but still
> usable. Having said that, I think other than "find file", helm is great in
> anything else.
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Phillip Lord
> <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> First, thanks for the tutorial. I've tried helm (and anything) several
>> times, but never got on with it as I have found the experience too
>> confusing. I've always reverted to ido. I like the idea of helm because
>> it is more pervasive than ido and can do several things at once. I
>> dislike the practice of helm because too many things happen at once (and
>> the wiki is incomprehensible).
>>
>> The thing that I am stuck on at the moment, is file navigation. With
>> ido.el, I use [tab] or [del] to move up or down directories (and carry
>> on selecting). With helm I have to use C-l C-j which I find much slower
>> because of the double keypress and because C-k is in the middle.
>>
>> I don't get the behaviour you are talking about with helm. I get a
>> single directory at once, and I have to navigate through it to get to
>> the files I want.
>>
>> Clearly I doing something wrong!
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> <solidius4747@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Consider this path: arch/x86/boot/main.c
>>>
>>> Can you type the file name first: "main.c", then add "x86" to get the correct
>>> file above? I'm pretty sure ido+flx can't do that, but maybe I'm missing
>>> something.
>>>
>>> With Helm, you can simply specify "mai x86" and it narrows to 3 candidates
>>> with the above path at the top. The file is in Linux kernel source.
>>>
>>> Maybe you misunderstood my statement about precise remembering project
>>> structure. What I meant was you have to remember the correct path ordering,
>>> and that requires you to be familiar with the directory structure. Whlie in
>>> Helm, I'm completely new to a directory and simply know nothing about
>>> directory structure. With Helm, I can start pop up questions like "is there a
>>> main.c that is relate to x86 arch?" and so on.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 222 7827
>> Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk
>> School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord
>> Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples
>> Newcastle University, twitter: phillord
>> NE1 7RU
>>
>
>
--
Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 222 7827
Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk
School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord
Room 914 Claremont Tower, skype: russet_apples
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-29 4:18 A package in a league of its own: Helm solidius4747
2014-08-29 5:49 ` Guide for package use?(was A package in a league of its own: Helm) Rusi
2014-08-29 6:17 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 13:36 ` A package in a league of its own: Helm Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7830.1409319420.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:03 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 15:06 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 16:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7852.1409330926.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 17:08 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 18:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7861.1409335444.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 1:49 ` solidius4747
2014-08-30 3:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7892.1409369651.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 3:55 ` solidius4747
2014-09-01 16:01 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-01 16:49 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 13:06 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.8044.1409590146.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:59 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-01 17:25 ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-09-01 17:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-09-01 17:40 ` York Zhao
2014-09-01 20:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-09-02 0:27 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 1:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-09-02 1:56 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 23:15 ` Tak Kunihiro
[not found] ` <mailman.8046.1409592357.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 8:21 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:27 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8039.1409587302.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:43 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:19 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 14:13 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 14:20 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 17:03 ` York Zhao
2014-09-03 9:58 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8183.1409738348.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 10:19 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8134.1409677438.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 17:11 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 17:32 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 18:15 ` Tu
2014-09-03 0:35 ` York Zhao
[not found] ` <mailman.8166.1409704538.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 3:50 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8106.1409664004.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 14:32 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-03 10:43 ` Phillip Lord
2014-08-31 9:09 ` Ernesto Durante
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