From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: where is alt.religion.emacs? Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:25:02 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87lhncyzxd.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87lhnntl72.fsf@vsl28t2g.ww011> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416083132 13609 80.91.229.3 (15 Nov 2014 20:25:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:25:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 21:25:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XpjuL-0000lI-DB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:25:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41903 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XpjuK-0007A5-TZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:25:20 -0500 X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 195.154.128.97 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:CRDO/Z2UyLwZU5Lqq6wUTNIMr/E= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:208660 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100938 Archived-At: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes: >> alt.religion.emacs is about the Church of Emacs, >> right? > > From the posts I read so far I think this mailing > list was often transcending even this encompassing > subject. ;-) Ha ha ha :) But some technology people are religious in style. And I say that in the negative, fundamentalistic sense. It has come to the point when the technology isn't the main thing anymore, but rather the set of rules - the "right way" to do things... just as modern-day fundamentalists chant their slogans (who cares about God anymore when there are a zillion rules to obey at all times, and infidels to kill). Here, when we argue back-and-forth on lists and newsgroups such as this there is often a tone which is ice-cold and (seemingly) without any human touch. While insults and obscene language should never be made a virtue, perhaps newcomers should be made aware somehow that the albeit insult-free but still ice-cold tone, it is just the tone that a bunch of tech-people use to communicate. Don't worry about it. I say this because when I use the same tone here at other places, there is always a big holaballo and that has surprised me numerous times. People are just not used to it. -- underground experts united