From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: launch a program in an arbitrary frame Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:40:55 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87lhec4eh4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <8xxwpxyducd.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxr3o5ea34.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxmvyte6ei.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxa8utdsof.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xx615hdozz.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <99b286f3-e759-4bb3-a824-e92a9eaee29b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437302730 31568 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 10:45:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:45:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:45:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm5u-0006Q7-NC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:45:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm5t-0000lT-TS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:45:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Trace: individual.net E6x6Q+p2DgX0r1rocytopQqH1CUqYl+Rr+R+1CaAz0r/eO6WDz Cancel-Lock: sha1:MTU1ZWFmMDY5ZmViOWE0MDE5NmNlY2ZhYmRlNTcwYWRmYzdmNzk1OA== sha1:O2V/f317d6zSom/kPaJLuyrNJnk= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:213558 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105844 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: >>> some people even felt that way about the then-new >>> bash shell. >> >> X Window and bash are not Emacs. > > I can definitely see X being slow then as well as > today, with graphics always being slow save for spoilt > kids who run monster machines bought by their affluent > but absent parents, only so the kids can play moronic > FPSs and share porn... and besides (with X), that > interesting but complicated distributed architecture > won't win any horse races, I reckon. But bash?! For > a shell to be slow, and to slow down the entire > system, something has to be seriously wrong. Anyway, > if there isn't a shell, and no GUI or base window > system, how do you interact with the system? Or do you > mean people who thought bash was too slow still had > the hardware to run a predecessor shell - simply the > Bourne shell, or perhaps [a]sh? https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/papers/osfaster.pdf -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk