From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: From Gnus to mu4e Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:49:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87lhczyl1p.fsf@free.fr> References: <87d1yhpsbr.fsf@free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440481809 6832 80.91.229.3 (25 Aug 2015 05:50:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Julien Cubizolles Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 25 07:50:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZU77N-0006vX-VI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:49:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58146 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZU77N-0003t2-8r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZU77C-0003sp-6M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZU777-0007rL-77 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from so1.mailgun.net ([198.61.254.11]:43096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZU777-0007qw-3T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:49:41 -0400 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJlYjQ5MyIsICJoZWxwLWdudS1lbWFjc0BnbnUub3JnIiwgIjI4ODhmOSJd Original-Received: from localhost (fes75-4-78-192-157-63.fbxo.proxad.net [78.192.157.63]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 55dc01f3.6a6bc60-in07; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:49:39 -0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87d1yhpsbr.fsf@free.fr> (Julien Cubizolles's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2015 23:23:36 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 198.61.254.11 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106827 Archived-At: Julien Cubizolles writes: > I'm considering moving from Gnus to mu4e, mostly because I spend too > much time tinkering with settings I don't really understand/need in > Gnus, and because the search feature seems promising. After a *lot* of scratching and testing, here is my setup: - Gnus for news and mails: because there are too many things I miss in other MUA. A simple example: quote only the selected region when replying. This cannot be implemented easily in mu and notmuch. - notmuch as a search engine: mu is really great (I used it the last three months) but I cannot get used to mu4e. And starting mu4e with a database of 100K emails takes two or three seconds. - mbsync to sync imap folders as local maildirs: I used offlineimap for several years and mbsync is just faster. - postfix with smtp_sender_dependent_authentication to use various smtp servers depending on the email I'm using. I see people use msmtp and msmtp-mta, which I tried for a while, but I'm just too impatient with the .3s you have to wait when sending. Will reconsider in a decade, when Emacs has more asynchronous power :) This is what I'm sticking too now and I'm fine. I was fine for years with a dummy fetchmail+nnml setup... many groups, many posting styles, no complexity. Then I obeyed to the social pressure and moved to all the dovecot, offlineimap, stuff -- and yes, OT discussions on the orgmode mailing lists pushed me in this directions! I must say that I was very frustrated for months that I didn't stick longer to this setup. Especially because I don't use fancy phones and I don't really need to go "mobile" or to sync many devices... but now I'm a grown up and I can haz another device that I'll sync in peace.