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From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: 22169@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:26:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh8rpykm.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABr8ebY7KmucTeRXtHedw77LZ651jfDPw=5w9ONAbAewtDQskg@mail.gmail.com>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> I rather think it's a non-starter, at least for Emacs 25.1.  It
> probably means users of all systems will be punished by slower
> directory searches,

How much slower do you suppose it would be? Especially for
utf-8, which I assume is fast anyway (it doesn't even seem to
reject excessively high codepoints... I'm not _entirely_ sure
utf-8 is not actually identical to emacs-internal, does anyone
know any concrete differences?)

Sometimes features, and correctness, have a performance cost. If
performance is the end-all and be-all priority, let's just
abolish all encodings and assume all filenames are in
emacs-internal.

What if it's only a 1% slow down? 5%? 10%? Or would an absolute
measure be more appropriate - i.e. define how much time it's
acceptable for it to take (on some standard directory and CPU).

> No, it's correctness on one platform vs speed on all the rest.

Strictly speaking, it's correctness for one encoding.

In trying to come up with another example, I noticed that in an
EUC-JP locale, typing "*修"TAB ("*\275\244") doesn't actually
match "文字化け" ["\312\270\273\372\262\275\244\261"] as I had
expected it to. I guess matching with embedded stars goes
through a different code path? Is there a way to simply enable
doing this for normal completion when the file system encoding
is utf-8-hfs? Or to add post-filtering [only return a filename
if it matches both the existing way *and* the decoded string
matches], only enabled by default on utf-8-hfs?

Or is even the time spent checking a boolean variable too much
of a performance penalty?






  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-18 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-14 19:08 bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X Anders Lindgren
2015-12-14 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 21:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 22:07     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  3:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15  5:12         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  9:31           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-15 10:21             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 16:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 19:16             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 19:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 20:05                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-17 22:01                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  2:46                     ` Random832
2015-12-18  6:29                     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  7:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:26                         ` Random832 [this message]
2015-12-18 17:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 17:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 19:16                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-20 19:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 22:00                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21  3:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21  6:52                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21 16:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21 22:03                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22  3:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22  5:42                                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22 17:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22 22:29                                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23  3:37                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-23  6:17                                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23 17:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-24 19:23                                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:33                                                         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  7:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  8:38                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  9:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:42                           ` Random832
2015-12-15 21:53                 ` Random832
2015-12-16  3:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16  5:05                     ` Random832
2015-12-16 10:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 16:00                         ` Random832
2015-12-16 17:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 18:19                             ` Random832
2015-12-16 18:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 20:49 ` Random832
2015-12-14 22:41 ` bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII ch Anders Lindgren

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