From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 19:26:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87lh70xu7i.fsf@iki.fi> References: <87mvriuk3a.fsf@gmail.com> <8737t9ex1p.fsf@petton.fr> <83oabxyf71.fsf@gnu.org> <56B230D1.90902@gmail.com> <87bn7x4i4o.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d1sc4rin.fsf@djcbsoftware.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454606840 28005 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2016 17:27:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Dirk-Jan C. 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Binnema's message of "Thu, 04 Feb 2016 13:57:36 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 62.71.2.198 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199311 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dirk-Jan C. Binnema [2016-02-04 13:57:36+02] wrote: > Regardless, for the purpose of searching, my personal preference would > be to make folding rather inclusive; I don't really care about the > exact rules languages have come up for what letters are considered > "the same", I just care for what I, as a user, would find the easiest > to match. > That would also get my vote as a reasonable default for case-folding > in searches. But I'll happily take any default, as long as there's a > way to get the above behavior, preferably without having to change my > locale. I think that just a global setting and easy switch like M-s in isearch prompt is enough. I fear that any locale or language based magic or intelligence is over-engineering and may cause annoying surprises. 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