From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20038: 25.0.50; (elisp) `Hooks for Loading' not updated correctly Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:19:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87lh3vf204.fsf@gnus.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462036849 16763 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 17:20:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20038@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 19:20:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awYZF-0007Et-4A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:20:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYZ8-0000Qa-0T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:20:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYz-0000Cc-9f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:20:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYn-000786-ID for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYn-00077C-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYj-0003Ey-U9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20038 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20038-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20038.146203676812394 (code B ref 20038); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:19:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYC-0003Dp-DC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58843) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYYA-0003Di-Os for 20038@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:19:27 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYY8-0004nr-9j; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:19:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 8 Mar 2015 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117393 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > 1. All doc describing `eval-after-load' was removed from the Elisp > manual. And doc for `with-eval-after-load' was added (OK). > > Unfortunately this paragraph was not updated or removed. It presumably > applies equally to `with-eval-afer-load': > > Normally, well-designed Lisp programs should not use > `eval-after-load'. If you need to examine and set the variables > defined in another library (those meant for outside use), you can do it > immediately--there is no need to wait until the library is loaded. If > you need to call functions defined by that library, you should load the > library, preferably with `require' (*note Named Features::). I've now updated this. > 2. Although the doc describing `eval-after-load' was removed, and > `eval-after-load' was removed from the index, there remain mentions of > `eval-after-load' in the manual, with cross-references to the node that > *used to* describe it, so you can find out more about it (but you > cannot). Node `Named Features', for example. And node `Coding > Conventions'. I've now replaced virtually all mentions of `eval-after-load' with `with-eval-after-load' in the manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no