From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark Oteiza Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On removing some obsolete code from subr and core Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:58:18 -0500 Message-ID: <87lgww8s0l.fsf@udel.edu> References: <878tsznpuq.fsf@udel.edu> <83fun6jpeq.fsf@gnu.org> <8360o1kdt4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478451553 1246 195.159.176.226 (6 Nov 2016 16:59:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:59:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 06 17:59:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3QmZ-00070o-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 17:58:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3Qmc-0000IT-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3Qm1-0000ID-Ty for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3Qly-0000hE-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]:35750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3Qlx-0000gD-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:58:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id c47so75050765qtc.2 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 08:58:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=y9cg1p7vzxsLq2o7Xq1I7SFDoqPHONRAqPQM3yxGPeg=; b=qMB/vF24XXPTFhjV7wStIeQzre3eaRdCSEJtRuMFNBM5T6Wc7QxE+QPknwOuXExYdt JKSdd6XUr4QrYwE58/hhhYds0yns4XemkpEy5QXEnNYgXJuGyFvJbeHSMo2p+T4c7xtX 6pox3MdyIrciopbdmtS34jRz5jSkiEQXiXI9HYF20Q1D/7f4Lf+jO/1gIM/m2TAhBcXU ToBSc1xtJrdZGFMwjn0/zj6EuG/+OkKElOEs3EhSA5GuJjZWXt91+8TrEQomhwej2+i2 /xNqqEzLMUYKGOPVfGHJF0fvdlTcyX2ate29bqCFSMRYNN8046SHuDjCn8yNiKpRO+Rv hDHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=y9cg1p7vzxsLq2o7Xq1I7SFDoqPHONRAqPQM3yxGPeg=; b=OBb8dVwKwZ4YJ/3Yh7jBFgAuAN1cYgLpm6BkOySyM+yV88va0ujjbUq401Jk/NaG1A Vv48lyBR9j0CrqCTtbhpj+puP7V8JvcT2okbbALQmbr+BSMiH2Aa+Zt4omTgg8oxKjmb tyhQAlCToNP3K1sxwYf0ed9tTpo3O1bEpm7YGWh8pgTXjEfYLv3ff0TBp26M+ttcjja9 rXuXGHZ/vqzlpIoTnnmrCkR2O/i0chUy3LttACv98TYJKvEqvNd4jomR0mklrqT6cUWR K0ktWK2tDHtdidyYqvq8cPg1pw4A6+KQ+48YKzZVik8E3PPQ0bf40hTU8udfSFTCCKmN Nfiw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvc8N0H31CdLB42fBd66iOLWtOJUIWpk5Yp0dLgRV4yj6G+vvzvllh0MD3+6JSl3D0IP X-Received: by 10.237.42.40 with SMTP id c37mr2965144qtd.92.1478451500965; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 08:58:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from holos.localdomain (pool-72-78-210-63.phlapa.fios.verizon.net. [72.78.210.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o34sm14006037qto.48.2016.11.06.08.58.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Nov 2016 08:58:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4DAC66231; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:58:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8360o1kdt4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 05 Nov 2016 19:59:51 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209213 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Mark Oteiza >> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 09:50:05 -0400 >> Cc: Emacs-devel >> >> > Why do we need to remove buffer_defaults? Once it is not exposed to >> > Lisp as variables, what's the harm? >> >> None aside from (presumably) dead code. > > It's not dead code at all. It's how Emacs knows the default value of > every variable that can become buffer-local, and that's how it can > initialize every new buffer with those default values. I don't see > how we could remove that. Oops. Thanks for the correction.