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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Change Tramp syntax
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 21:31:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgsbd08r.fsf@detlef> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o9x7d1a6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 11 Mar 2017 22:08:33 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,

>> Currently, we have implemented option 2. But the check, whether the host
>> name in /ssh:foo collides with a method, happens too late, because file
>> name handlers are fired by parsing the file name, and not by additional
>> checks (like a function call).
>
> Are the recent changes the reason that typing "C-x C-f ~/da" is now
> followed by a perceptible delay, due to Tramp being auto-loaded?  This
> used not to be the case.

"~/da" shall not invoke Tramp. But it does, indeed. If I call "emacs -Q"
and eval "M-x debug-on-entry RET load", then Tramp is already loaded
after typing "~/d". The reason is

  substitute-in-file-name("/d")
  rfn-eshadow-update-overlay()
  read-from-minibuffer("Find file: " "~/" (keymap (keymap (32)) keymap (10 . minibuffer-complete-and-exit) (13 . minibuffer-complete-and-exit) keymap (menu-bar keymap (minibuf "Minibuf" keymap (tab menu-item "Complete" minibuffer-complete :help "Complete as far as possible") (space menu-item "Complete Word" minibuffer-complete-word :help "Complete at most one word") (63 menu-item "List Completions" minibuffer-completion-help :help "Display all possible completions") "Minibuf")) (27 keymap (118 . switch-to-completions)) (prior . switch-to-completions) (63 . minibuffer-completion-help) (32 . minibuffer-complete-word) (9 . minibuffer-complete) keymap (menu-bar keymap (minibuf "Minibuf" keymap (previous menu-item "Previous History Item" previous-history-element :help "Put previous minibuffer history element in the minibuffer") (next menu-item "Next History Item" next-history-element :help "Put next minibuffer history element in the minibuffer") (isearch-backward menu-item "Isearch History Backward" isearch-backward :help "Incrementally search minibuffer history backward") (isearch-forward menu-item "Isearch History Forward" isearch-forward :help "Incrementally search minibuffer history forward") (return menu-item "Enter" exit-minibuffer :key-sequence "" :help "Terminate input and exit minibuffer") (quit menu-item "Quit" abort-recursive-edit :help "Abort input and exit minibuffer") "Minibuf")) (10 . exit-minibuffer) (13 . exit-minibuffer) (7 . abort-recursive-edit) (C-tab . file-cache-minibuffer-complete) (9 . self-insert-command) (XF86Back . previous-history-element) (up . previous-line-or-history-element) (prior . previous-history-element) (XF86Forward . next-history-element) (down . next-line-or-history-element) (next . next-history-element) (27 keymap (114 . previous-matching-history-element) (115 . next-matching-history-element) (112 . previous-history-element) (110 . next-history-element))) nil file-name-history "~/" nil)

The delay is not serious on my 7-years old T500 (less than half a
second). I don't know whether this counts as "perceptible".

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-11 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170309184457.29604.13048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20170309184458.08C9725FCF@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2017-03-10  8:43   ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:00     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:10       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:32         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:57           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 14:14             ` Change Tramp syntax (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006) Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 15:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-03 15:54                 ` Change Tramp syntax John Wiegley
2017-04-03 17:00                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-03 23:14                     ` John Wiegley
2017-04-03 23:35                       ` Drew Adams
2017-04-04  8:46                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 16:46                         ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 16:59                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 19:44                             ` John Wiegley
2017-04-06 19:12                               ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-07  5:27                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-08 16:43                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-13 18:00                                     ` John Wiegley
2017-04-07 13:52                                 ` Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-07 14:02                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-08 16:41                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-09 19:18                                     ` Talking about Lisp symbols Richard Stallman
2017-04-10 13:43                                     ` Change Tramp syntax Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-10 16:18                                     ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-10 16:45                                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-10 18:03                                         ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-04 17:04                       ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 17:50                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 21:08                           ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04  7:09                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-10 16:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 19:44                 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-11 20:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 20:31                     ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2017-03-12 15:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-12 18:30                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 22:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:23                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-13 17:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:35                               ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14  3:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14  9:06                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 14:13                                     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 16:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 21:54                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12  9:10                     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 17:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 18:43                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 21:50                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13  7:23                             ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:30       ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:36         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 13:44           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:34       ` Stefan Monnier

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