From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:39:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535557765 7844 195.159.176.226 (29 Aug 2018 15:49:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:49:25 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: hw@adminart.net, Ergus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 29 17:49:20 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2ib-0001lJ-45 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:49:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2kh-00045F-Bv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2aH-0007ir-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2aH-00037w-2C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:56830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2a9-0002p3-BK; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:40:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IkfdLbjmhZ1c54w+z1UNq7pSS0IbHDtOqLcfLWJn1yM=; b=ukHSRIbM+T3W6y+k9QDn082Y3 RUXfl93A+YkTJv/IesgQWTdYwKS9JKI7677V8g5s6aGEDuHA3Nn4ogvMShFUaBwlGc90EuRvh9QHk KWoL+CPtrNeVtsuGyWpTTFtyzJWHYEIw+ttbA9nHSDg40qsKexz1gGkEOoYYt1tCvR4AfcZl/Jdsx hrDAMO8SyzD5qEN70TcH/F2zPQ9IA/TepGGf200xA/RDZyOikp5BnPmKOxuHe2DyJCSkJAH357WJ3 raW3ix32ZHi2WHKbpzNBB+TkV1gMTHyGRidvpQTT+zlR35KZIKEyzbpImS6yfvuz0h3DHkY8By0C8 CA3zWqlpg==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:53052 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fv2ZS-003FRW-H4; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:39:50 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 27 Aug 2018 17:46:37 +0300") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229055 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 03:54:22 +0200 >> From: Ergus >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> I thing there should be also an emacs tutorial centered only in text >> editing, because the basic tutorial is too simple in that field. > > If someone would like to write such a tutorial, and does a good job, > I'm sure it will be welcome. I did write a new tutorial which was designed for to come from the perspective of a new user of today. My hope was to do something a bit more intelligent with it -- with some screen shots and rich text, as well as highlighting for menu items, so I wrote it in org-mode. Alas I haven't had the time to actually integrate it into Emacs. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/phillord/emacs-tutorial/master/tutorial.org If someone has the time to do the integration it's nearly ready to go. To my mind, updating the tutorial would be a good thing just because it would give the impression that it is updateable, rather than a thing set in stone. Phil