From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36206: [PATCH] Change `user-error' docstring from "pilot error" to "user error" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:08:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87lfy4nttc.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87tvcsnwdf.fsf@gmx.de> <87pnngnvbi.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="238801"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 36206@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 14 16:48:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hbnUr-000zx3-8f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1560521298; bh=8sq4og+vBaXQjT88yHGfBb4VzQDq6SNreZxskOVKaHQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=UplZR2PTeyfT/IYVGNuxKmfbF8gaasVJFLx1DjbZwmXmk2B5yhW6+Bz79iOt+RiPB chWv92yL6z/a7Mveqpn8eyUKlC4xG0pBaDoTp0bHGymE3tt8bY6aKUhLkUk6ZkCwl/ qQlSsZpRMNMv8wTchi3AJEBeAFlvgiOhUn7HoJm4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.57.128]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOREi-1i0cBj3L8o-00Pw6U; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:08:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:51:14 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hJURBYhG0k0acA8VmxjA0YYt2ZM/jc3iKp6WxFWzobwswx08mgW YCNUtx/Uv+lbgv7GMpKoRikdY7nqKLyg5PSP6sPVDdzm3zMJadS/v2DhEF6MuINr00UPuJc OdxrLhDY2BLx0w7728ae4SBoTLcl7qgLzIQYaNWIPNrclP8H6QW+2Lu7gfu2JuUxPv+HuqS HJoe2Ek0eXRz2Lfhx3u3w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rD6vqNkGZ+8=:FlA8Vt7t/x2P41X00nXw2w zirzrNkLZkwmrn/4XDpR2z7JS67cUAXJcsDaMSKFmKjOqvk60YW0wkhud6eMU7VHnRlCvkXX6 Usw7mBpvoXv5WQlRWB/HxqYYozbO2uOJdhmqeoVXamy5xA+wIi0g9pIym0Jc/14CZZwORYNdT q1xmK7x3JdmG7Z7IxkYoz4tkS2w/ZDEBgq/OamHGCmmVG14e7FwCTQ3L1tGlFN+TyWO7eviJV i/VXRDSr3dLLq36NQ5TgpkUJmrUPtga4oCBAqB4GWvc18c2vE5UcCkRI31M+9G77mYJtozKy6 BkAhoPdO9XDSNuwXteCuddSZTvLUVmeSBRT81/reb8KEU0tCcFeEYxDZG2A2TeASJWutZCfmg zQliJ3SvE0YHPXuwnjIC5eMzQTH7/2en2GcJoR+GLSMwqrarENR/j+4HjCLiG2zLzV5n82BRR rdFkAuKTMWbJ0Nydo2KBD56ABY9KzEcvd7X5Js1q+UfEbqR+R8/aZJUgkF8iCfK5JxBt+jAjT /4b0qQwSrmh4xgFgyPd+x/LxssqBUegpE0/63AyBF2GteuTHg8cjw1wiLhmeqnbca4qiglVqC sOlLbWhxcgInBogS6D8NkvxOu44Ki+WPTQ3VP9AfQ+XUKcDCE7ofUVL0ATbgePmkTWS8JHKP1 uCpr++vIkzhWSqcjiWxXoFVJfPbU1EVs6LYUuQ//2NF+nidH8v88at7pJc1h2rb7Yheqahhc8 +BMU1lVYzky5rIu3DgDjErySz0P6FfzPOwgFNyiuMy0GYtjOSSZlW4ynkLV0Zzb47LNyVoEx X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160559 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Right, but we are now discussing the term "pilot error". Do you think > that it is better than "user error"? If yes, why? History. Community. Cultural background. I understand, that new users might not know such terms. But we shouldn't give them up just because of this. We must explain somewhere, at least with a reference to the hacker's dictionary or emacswiki or whatever. If something is not explained in Wikipedia, it cannot be regarded as non existing. It would be a poor world then. > Thanks, > Stefan Kangas Best regards, Michael.