From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:58:10 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87lfsew4ek.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <8ea0a3fa-5169-4493-bd54-3ebe47836a35@default> <87r3i9nped.fsf@gnus.org> <87wps1m7co.fsf@web.de> <87y4chjdop.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ys3131.fsf@gnus.org> <875zjx6hs6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sgmy3x22.fsf@gnus.org> <871rugbqmy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87d0dxyh7z.fsf@gnus.org> <53c55db5-d623-4946-af2e-d141e7bc7acd@default> <87sgmrpir5.fsf@web.de> <87mucya2a7.fsf@web.de> <87mucy4cb2.fsf@web.de> <621b98dc-0fe9-4eef-9e11-7580fb446e97@default> <87k1822ocn.fsf@web.de> <87lfsfmtk0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v9rjv45e.fsf@web.de> <266012df-8baf-469d-83b0-25f9cfdff603@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="107604"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 17272@debbugs.gnu.org, 19064@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 23:12:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSmE-000Rrk-4p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:12:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56658 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSmC-0000zU-Fc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:12:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSm3-0000xz-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:12:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSm2-0001pQ-JS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:12:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSm2-0001pI-Bx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSm2-0005MV-4D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:12:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17272 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 17272-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17272.157402869420548 (code B ref 17272); Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17272) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2019 22:11:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSla-0005LL-EF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:11:34 -0500 Original-Received: from buffalo.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.24]:36740) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWSlY-0005L9-4g; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:11:33 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D445250137B; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-4-107.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.4.107]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 50C3D5014A4; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:11:30 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Bored-Average: 6db373b04d4e7315_1574028690572_156919188 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1574028690572:2614130984 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1574028690572 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF7881897; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:11:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=Ikmsyr6Z+P23PBHi7puVZg91Eyg=; b= XGWsrTlTwkQUThnoKW+mGf/WmyHg7cCchePPPDJ48tgjfEuVbnHZTvI9o3o0qEAT 47NS2VpZkqvArglQkoVFrW2N6j9HK2dXR9edetg1NFh87qJ5FvrIE4MCQo6WFHlS eGXNDrM1FYUW/MXAi+eHDXRlgmsICawpMcRsxUFUSoU= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2C958189E; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 14:11:21 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a52 In-Reply-To: <266012df-8baf-469d-83b0-25f9cfdff603@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:42:06 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171872 Archived-At: > So you're saying it wasn't a mistake for you to say > that _user input_ (not a prompt) is permanently > hidden? The minibuffer is composed of both the prompt and user input. Both the prompt and user input are hidden permanently by the message covering the whole minibuffer. > If you had seen `(yes or no)' then you would be > using the minibuffer. And if you had started to > type, say, `ye' for `yes', then your minibuffer > input would have been obscured only temporarily by > the compilation message. Not temporarily, but permanently. > Using the echo area for a "prompt" is, IMO, not a > great idea. I agree, this is why using the minibuffer is better.