From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9248: 23.2; Welcome screen Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87lfq4wwez.fsf@marxist.se> References: <868vr97e2e.fsf@jmfranc-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87a76l1wen.fsf@marxist.se> <87tv4tbfoz.fsf@gmail.com> <871rrxxfea.fsf@marxist.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="111182"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 9248@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 17:41:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1isr9t-000Stg-IB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=093wa+OZAUcC2tAVGk1fG3kAUUPds4niRugmke/kPR4=; b=XMMrZWEMEj8sy2rlyGrK6d+JNo 5LPLVZuVIFLDH3aEI0Ihs7pUwvXxTxS4k4PXMvBgLJgYS23syK0ddR48UMBl9ElzXHQ6PEWJcjEoR EKVJvengrEfHYk/rwKKsUdhZktTgr5Y93UNVLyEsogD63lRfjrmcCqp+zz/NmyQ3GSasdgHkmskYA 6WsUODxUnn7zyAs4uw2Vp+so7a89PsZANDuGEzKkaBgPV/ZyIsIhvRnicYzk3Bimg/sHfRLGTUbue T6d+wWgVGksfxUXaP6PWL2r5BaO6V4F2NcGb+jKZhWMIl7ci9AbfjU6iwP9jCj2DmyLI+BgzSmt45 wmBHpnUg==; Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:33456 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1isr8p-001KyS-4g; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 11:40:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <871rrxxfea.fsf@marxist.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:50:05 +0100") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:174821 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I agree that this should be changed. I expect a splash screen to be > shown only when I run a command without specifying any particular > file. IME, this is what most other software does, and I see no reason > why Emacs should be different. Catching up on emacs-devel, there is a thread on this particular issue... where Stefan Monnier points to the "Dismiss this startup screen" button. That button quits the window and customizes inhibit-startup-window to t. This code seems to have been introduced in 2007 by Chong Yidong (commit 22a58255). Of course, I have never seen that button over the years. I find that your brain learns to filter out splash screens completely after a while, which incidentally makes displaying them more often counter-productive. So, I don't think this changes my previous argument, but it does make any need to change it less pressing. Best regards, Stefan Kangas