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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Evgeny Zajcev <lg.zevlg@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Lazy image converters
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:06:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfp2wuj0.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO=W_ZoDtv8oULLy-TrCDzB7zA8czK8NM8cZL=KrQ6K7+hr8pQ@mail.gmail.com> (Evgeny Zajcev's message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2020 17:11:02 +0300")

Evgeny Zajcev <lg.zevlg@gmail.com> writes:

> What if we have a lazy image, so its FILE-OR-DATA is calculated at
> redisplay time.  'image-convert' could utilize this.  One of the
> approaches to lazy images is to allow FILE-OR-DATA to be a function
> returning actual file or data.  Redisplay could call this func and
> substitute the value of FILE-OR-DATA in image spec with the results,
> kind of caching the results.

Hm...  It does sound nice, but I worry about calling this complicated
(and slow) code from redisplay.

And in my experience, most of the time when you put images in a buffer,
you're going to display them, so it's not clear that this would often be
a win, UX wise.

I can see it being so when preparing huge directory-like buffers (with
images; I do that for my music playing interface) -- then the user will
normally only display a small subsection of the images, and then
delaying the processing of the images is a win.

And the same is the case for web pages, I guess, but there the download
time dwarfs anything Emacs does, so it wouldn't make much difference
there, I think?

So...  I'm not convinced of the utility here, especially compared to the
potential problems arising from running complicated Lisp code from
redisplay.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-16 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-12 14:11 Lazy image converters Evgeny Zajcev
2020-02-16 13:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2020-02-16 17:45   ` Evgeny Zajcev
2020-02-19 13:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-02-16 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-17 11:02   ` Evgeny Zajcev

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