From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question mail package Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:00:19 -0300 Message-ID: <87lfn5bsm4.fsf@oitofelix.com> References: <20191021120730.4y3obbqtd45mjl7j@Ergus> <87eez6nqhp.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87r1x9d0ja.fsf@oitofelix.com> <87wo70g4q0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="70099"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eric S Fraga Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 08 23:00:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jMHoe-000I8U-8k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 23:00:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMHod-0004OX-AZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:00:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMHo7-0004NU-Is for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:00:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jMHo7-0003iw-7P; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:00:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [186.210.155.185] (port=59634 helo=felix-laptop) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jMHo6-0004MT-6h; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:00:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wo70g4q0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:10:15 +0100") X-Face: %,T7Hsg=SK$Zh)wiU4Qdv9-fZ26Pf5*+}Ld,{LeV'Cq-1?=kA"hc,'i""S85]g; _W+{nZfx 2GnAMS1K\E_E&:{h[wQd+Tqj5#PtH:W&8^crA0>i?nmD7hOL$K".`@An_8.7gaObQLlMy0\%%I0Jp. Lue$J0B Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAIAAADYYG7QAAACcElEQVRYw93YzXHCQAwF4G0h Fw4caYEW0oJbSAtuwa1AldGg8PKQtP+GMHkHxkDG/qLVrtek6x65UCZPleYdH485HA4zrHHQ4R5F cPSTl4L0qigJDoxpoFRpUmMGKzR1sbpB3DTLsnzd83nL+XyeNHWDoBHEeg9YQlQWCtZrSmOa1YVN ktDkiz0FwmDJVbd7CizTUhcXLByDINXIiGyUQqnkL8Nm8iCY5CD1lkf+9UYQFykEhb7UqEGFeLwK Q6YgnXTovEtDZkHGZFpbR21nkLlhlUFqWig63XYGyevxeGSQXFjXG4lclSnyyekW/Ur+jFfzWRD6 31RoeQxAnxQB6cErQBKsywDpW6Yo93UgFAMg3DqgMaCqaRzEc4pBPh50fdxk9oF4zvPCCBDml6fo sIagnClVNTmQn/BAmOXxn4LMXQan45vrJCg07QPC/JI8BeT3BjidLNkGpOu1anSNbgd5U6qWx4Ak DOL1RotkTLMV8ouEWYc8yNzezcBNVchv5MIK8VKEHjKrM0D+malvyFoqxG2kLBHIMCmo3EAjFfLl MSAeNSzZoeZZIH/SHAim3I1MMwvC7syAeBuEyV++s3aA2suDHkI7nyi6UUTCHwLGKxSCsFjzzpV3 ZNUihc+s9QqF7YwtEW88zAMQt5Ec7AkKx4uvWjChwaujFoAay+PLUHhQ5LQXKeVu7y2a0GRY/LZq +gG1jBROap4Sy0XyX1VNyf8Ekav8lom5dqFyocn0k62QOenWkBC05uNNDyCv2fpj2mUtxve7vGZB 21CqI1X1BaBhTfiz1QDL9tAMaN70C8L8ei/Q32rYlN6hgdj0DS+u5+J4AqFYAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:122776 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Eric, Eric S Fraga writes: > On Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 17:56, Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: >> 1. Gnus becomes quite slow when handling dozens of thousands of >> messages; > Yes, maybe, for some backends. It works just fine with nnml for me with > 10s of thousands of emails in some of the groups. For me nnml takes several minutes to process thousands of messages for splitting, expiring, spam or ham-training. One can see it handling each message, one by one in the mini-buffer. >> [1] Running multiple Emacs instances is not an option. > Why not? I used to do this all the time some years ago when I had to > use an imap mail server on the other side of the planet with large > latency. I had one instance for gnus and one for everything else. Just > curious. I use Emacs as my main computing environment. Quoting from [1]: [...] to serve the noble purpose of filling into the gaps of making GNU Emacs a practical and convenient =E2=80=9Ccomputing environment=E2=80= =9D for me =E2=80=94 after all it=E2=80=99s my main system at home and work, across several OS= es: GNU/Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, ReactOS and FreeDOS. That means that all those systems boot directly onto full-screen Emacs (most graphically), and all my user initialization code is inside my .emacs (rather than .xsession, .xinitrc, .profile or .bashrc) =E2=80=93 so all helper sub-processes are managed by Emacs; my window manager is EXWM (wherever possible), and I use Emacs for everything feasible, the only exception being to resort to a javascript-capable web-browser for sites requiring it and whose job can=E2=80=99t be done with Emacs alone. Thus running another Emacs instance is undesirable for two reasons: 1) They don=E2=80=99t share the same Lisp interpreter; the instance using G= nus would be isolated. The two instances would have to cooperate through primitive means like the file system and clipboard. This is cumbersome. 2) Using an Emacs inside another Emacs is inconvenient and might lead to confusion keybind-wise. Footnotes:=20 [1] https://oitofelix.github.io/elpa/ =2D-=20 Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) [0x28D618AF] --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJejjtjAAoJECe5xv0o1hivsM8H/R6wrCfxI20bTMUbvbRPNCww kHjml+VWea7V+SG3vFnegcLFaATij0LNu87lAosFAQzgzbSxnsCC5L3yKixd4Gzr HGugbZXSFY+XxXe05jn0QdskC3nOGF3Fawzs4dHu0dGL9j+BkrxIsoVfzH9htyNP MFojyeLzBdpdrcaiABencAPZJNtMu52WZTwHNmYqNpfmgej39cshjXnshv0M47vn 9661fxO5U0Ui5MknIh0LbsrKQJ56yB/cus0q3mFpl8/RheRdW2iGXUUN/fNQFkkb vLYa6hwbR59YmUqcGWBJwQc2UFJbGXrrTXGs/r64QHKFplbQEurp7wcstxgJie8= =fU08 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--