From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amin Bandali Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:14:23 -0400 Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87lfhkl2r4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1ca462fa-0f9e-3c18-6386-f43f49388b2f@gmail.com> <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> <83k0x4mjsv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17759"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, Eli Zaretskii , drew.adams@oracle.com To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 17:15:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfLD-0004Ue-Qh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:15:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfLC-0006Qm-PY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfKI-0005qQ-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:14:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([209.51.188.10]:46524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfKG-000662-Re; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:14:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [2607:fea8:3fdf:f688::8] (port=54424 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfKC-0004VC-FH; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:14:25 -0400 Mail-Followup-To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt), Eli Zaretskii , nicola.manca85@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, dgutov@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254743 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > > undo-tree is superior. > >=20 > > That would make Emacs unusable for the majority of Emacs users. > > I believe this is an exaggeration. Exaggerations aren't useful in > discussion such as this one. > > I would find it entierly unusable (I've tried it several times) and I > know several people who use Emacs would find the same, so I do not > find it at all an exaggeration. Perhaps the point about 'exaggeration' was not about you finding it completely unusable, but rather generalizing your (and the several other people's you mentioned) experience to "the majority of Emacs users"? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEEObM8jZRIDS3cwqSYi0Sgzce5VvIFAl9Xn88QHGJhbmRhbGlA Z251Lm9yZwAKCRCLRKDNx7lW8pyRD/9t/GEtLOkVVCL5xnMHRZrXxumDlHonA/jS 2o1/RD3z+RA9KjPUOkqUCelVZjYUvoTIoBnT5eVWuTiElaw7Px2ve8Xm+jcX8KfJ GRQeAretF8wiFCcTp3wESKM+EzOr/9F1nAlq3v4eRdWky7UCUk7KOXiS7yeX5j/T i44lnvNJ7F/KP+/Nun+GkhwyRNHJNKBU8p77r+CALLdV6udYkPfLHHpv/Y2aAj2B rh3dl/Ufu7c5MRQ8NPw3LTNbhSgL9fXQDjtmPNdXiElsg6grJ+04JTZvduFjA1Ad qnCR4ktYARYxhuF/thE17oo+8kmcH6tvSjFVvri8QddTPDTN6BtutAAA4Hpvc0OJ g8cKtO6ppHr66tpPSOPloDeIqgHsNkttm50U0YeOWmQoBPpO+JU6r2j4O3lFCYS2 qtt79KjyWI+FgJ0VXOBktk5A/wnLNLBHwRHYPGYwFQAFDY+1fRQqq2WEyLTsa/3p RplQZrqWaQfuG1lMkLe4uqtX0GP2gcTcfgibBEXKXZwBw0pTYuDSnyKVrfFmcse/ jeXuyKo4zlJ/BEHdDP9q2SOmiRgeCYxdZiiS5N/OyvBPa1vxXgWWDWn98vR9zS5s HeUDb0afn8naLqhjvFPvPwQ+Sea9/1bVgEY52IJjphDhGsr92lRGnX8Y7O4//5iE Y2TgvCXUgg== =OFwp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--