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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: empty-directory predicate, native implementation
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 09:51:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfg2zm90.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbac0852-2562-41e1-962a-b302a6fefec0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:13:43 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

Hi Drew,

> IOW, what's different, AFAICS, is the match data: the match.
>
> So if you use the regexp only with `string-match-p' (which
> doesn't care about the match data), or if you use it only
> with `directory-files', then there's no real difference in
> the effect.  But if you use it for some context where the
> matched parts are important, that is, where the match-data
> matters, then there's a big difference.

Yes. But to be fair, the docstring of directory-files-no-dot-files-regexp
didn't promise to return any kind of match data. Using it was just using
an undocumented side effect.

> I didn't complain about Emacs changing the value of the
> variable - no lobbying is needed.  What I said was that
> "it's not clear to me" why people were claiming that the
> new regexp is "more correct" than the old one.  (No one
> ever responded to that, explaining in what way the old
> one was somehow incorrect.)

I believe this statement was rather for the different instances of
regexps over the code, all of them claiming to match just "." and
"..". And some of them might have been wrong.

> [BTW, neither manual nor doc string for `directory-files'
> says what MATCH is matched against, other than "file names".
> But apparently it's matched only against the nondirectory
> part of file names, even if FULL is non-nil.]

I've fixed the docstrings of directory-files-no-dot-files-regexp,
directory-files and directory-files-and-attributes.

Best regards, Michael.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-19  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-18 21:13 empty-directory predicate, native implementation Drew Adams
2020-10-18 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-19  7:54   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19  0:24 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  0:37   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-19  2:15     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  7:51 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2020-10-19 15:25   ` Drew Adams
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2020-10-18  4:05                                           ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-13  2:22 Arthur Miller
2020-10-13  8:01 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 11:42   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 13:16     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 18:32       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 18:39         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 23:20           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  9:19             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 13:53               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 18:43   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 19:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 19:59       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 14:43           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 18:44   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 19:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:08       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  1:52       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  9:21         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 13:56           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:41             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 15:07               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 15:53                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 16:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 16:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15  5:53                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15  9:12                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 11:33                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 12:21                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 13:29                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 14:01                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 14:41                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 15:22                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 23:31                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17  8:13                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-17 19:03                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 20:03                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 20:27                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:18                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 22:06                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:02                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:27                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 21:58                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-18 12:06                                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-18  2:47                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-18 11:52                                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-18 16:15                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-10-18 16:43                                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-18 20:15                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-18 21:25                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-19  0:03                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-18 22:21                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  8:04                                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 14:01                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19 14:50                                               ` Michael Albinus
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2020-11-02 17:02                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-03 15:20                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 13:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 23:33                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:49             ` Arthur Miller

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