From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2020 21:29:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87lffgg92f.fsf@gmx.de> References: <20201103104340.q34kqfita55w2u7h@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201103171627.f33ud4xkwv6rqvcq@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87y2jifhjq.fsf@gmx.de> <20201103191043.42sdslilcmb47jg5@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87pn4sgaiy.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs-Devel List , Boruch Baum , Jean Louis , Stefan Kangas To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 04 21:33:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kaPTB-0008Fy-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 21:33:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33564 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaPT9-00041e-Vf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 15:33:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaPPh-0000rm-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 15:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:51401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaPPf-00070R-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 15:29:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1604521754; bh=2tSWUAvRNUjgl4iRJYvdkNHh6tHOLuR1HNM8Bh/jkWM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=IQ2FE9fPYUKd9UtsL4g6ZzCLDSGPoJ7NXaTue5QmYRHNdTq6X5VFOnz+8PqeM4dsc mURoKZfXqtdJ6E6cjOTscqGFYOLzR4oGGh5xWzs19mvHRK/RekxOZhbD5asp9pjlHw iMbURT2MN45dZ1UmOoiWOMcOUumnROOg1snw5m30= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.112.132]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MHG8g-1kW3p337Xk-00DHed; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 21:29:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 2020 03:18:04 +0700") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NbU7Pd9GKb18L+1G5rIys02LPLmcG3zkVdT/BBhMUMFhiDWxnue wurT4Ws31G+K2fISlxg+k4LHi6Hll8R3mVUJ4Y/+vv4dFs+09m9Wu56aoPvTTZ/A9WXQPms Xiy9tnsqOn4BEhiajtiHRiaJk0vlsuTtMlvHWpN65Vb1dx9tkSCbtRVKl391w4yJnxtM2dt PkhCXnt6RKph6eLFi/gnQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1ZYAT/D5WXs=:GiAsp80eS89HoLdOfd9Rni WhPyTan0UwMTPGUpR+3CJQR08Efmdfoj36h0AvPiB4VwJWQ5bTqaj5edD32dKJ0z/0VJYWUjW 9k8i9Jad2SKWCVsBm8/plTt90Laat0iGa08hCsklpwazfli+MxfAxbq82oSygME2IVaJDGyOp x0anb3ITz0NlDJLBmUvc8Vnn7gh1UBpvFgX01aexMKW9Y8fIJDiQflEYYzBbc4NKwXu7eUJ9f Kprg4hprfyegbpoA4ggdf0F170uLkCJfKVL+BxqLntjNy9J6yvgl/EXEkdF32suo2SDsfUdKB I/ZSHfn+ILj6ZWW9PIExCmUv5RvwXNmCkTKac8z9Ubj+poM7XP9ivwSgbL46i2WtUVstn9TwW GhqAQnsK3lzeSGKP4+2CPlV+jDZptPUhK2F3rbSfyDJD9U9ijgK0AAojOyg+0b5PQkC9IpY7q g4ms1z3A9n/9f4dkrFnMqPVpj1DIxztNQTgwKKsnCXCXl6zz7djNrRWurF5Y+A2zGt5E7TADa g3TGxRnSsthuuYoqfgAOEtS6rZRh8CDn+M7EZHAIVzX3/QNzuuCw7x6vX2S3M9cQq9G3UehWE AeeeO7QE9DH71ZQIUVLBJF5068NBu+OU4iqe2L4OM1ujlPzqsxxG2AwGDDchgoVER2NDnvXhY hWZvU4VniSpuXabQ/vyDcnrYQEVgBK49HV23BpLvAJ7PoBPld7/Oou6B4hI5aKQcXHdbffhXj RKgw3QE10kiEdHgEjYg1DTb7qsmCsSeTrNTticsVYtCijaniXITkvZCGD2WgQtdjCEV+mOWf Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 15:29:45 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258703 Archived-At: Yuri Khan writes: Hi Yuri, >> When I have trashed a file, say "/ssh:ford:/tmp/xxx", it appears as >> "/home/albinus/.local/share/Trash/files/xxx", in the local trash can. >> "/home/albinus/.local/share/Trash/info/xxx.trashinfo" contains the line >> >> Path=/ssh%3aford%3a/tmp/xxx >> >> as expected. > > What do other file managers do when trashing a file from a network > file system into the home trash? The spec is unclear on the intended > path format in this case, although it mentions that trashing over the > network is possible. Locally, I have nautilus. It doesn't offer to trash remote files. > It is unfortunate if Emacs puts remote file names in Tramp syntax but > all other file managers use, e.g., URL syntax. This could be changed in move-file-to-trash. Since trashing remote files to the local trash is a pretty new feature of the master branch, we don't need to think about backward compatibility. Best regards, Michael.