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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263782 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2021 09:37:07 +0000, Gregory Heytings said: >>> In a recent commit I see that the C-x g binding was taken for >>> revert-buffer. >>=20 >> I see another disadvantage in that binding: revert-buffer is a >> drastic operation, so we should not make it easier. I think it is >> wiser not to put it on a key -- which is why I never did. >>=20 Gregory> It's true that it is a drastic operation, but it asks for Gregory> confirmation, and it can be undone. An additional security me= asure Gregory> would be to disable it by default: (put 'revert-buffer 'disabl= ed t). Please no, it=CA=BCs a useful operation in some situations, making it more confusing for people to use is not a good idea. Compromise binding: "C-x G", which doesn=CA=BCt clash with magit, and is relatively hard to type by accident. Robert