From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12925: 24.1; string-make-unibyte instead of string-as-unibyte Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 09:02:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf7udq4q.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87wqxi24b3.fsf@betacantrips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17544"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 12925@debbugs.gnu.org, Ethan Glasser-Camp To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 01 09:03:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQj-0004Iw-Gj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 09:03:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQh-0008TN-DB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40216) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQY-0008Sx-R8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQY-0003KB-J2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQY-0008AS-FU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 07:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12925 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 12925-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12925.162253095030436 (code B ref 12925); Tue, 01 Jun 2021 07:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12925) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2021 07:02:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyQ1-0007uX-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:02:30 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:40190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyPw-0007mH-5X for 12925@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 03:02:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IjLsMlVxh17uL/O9Bd7OTYDGeJTJbWANAeE/jMc1Op4=; b=AyTKFFegnEiPpKHUZfs6aSgCM+ NG8oD7eTAm/iI2USOvsE+87K+y4aP47ktzl8yTXzILsCEuACrP+wrypJmYy3U4Juqam1jh9MjDIk6 7hN/i8bVM4uwPOHQzyWgYOAeChvKrXqS2wXrMOqUt5LJenRM4ILTHNI1wxK7XkP4fnsQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnyPm-0004u1-Ip; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 09:02:16 +0200 X-Now-Playing: 75 Dollar Bill's _I Was Real_: "I Was Real" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:27:17 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207751 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Why does inserting multibyte text into a unibyte buffer corrupt it >> like this? > > Because the right thing (i.e. signaling an error) was not backward > compatible with broken code that assumed that chars can be presented > with 8bit (i.e. code written in the glory days of latin-N, koi-8, ...). > > We could/should probably try to do the right thing now, since such > broken code is probably much less common. (Now eight years later.) So the suggestion is to make inserting multibyte strings into a unibyte buffer signal an error (instead of inserting the lower byte of characters). Has anybody experimented with doing this and seeing whether this signals a lot of errors in daily usage? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no