From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49194: kill-whole-line 'plus-newline-even-if-none-in-reality Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:11:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf6zi6nq.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tuloegsa.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34186"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 49194@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 24 18:13:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRyf-0008eJ-5h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33096 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRye-0007Sq-79 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:13:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRyQ-0007Qb-GN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60595) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRyQ-00061C-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRyQ-0008Pp-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49194 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49194-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49194.162455112432265 (code B ref 49194); Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49194) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2021 16:12:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRxU-0008OK-2y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRxS-0008Nn-4X for 49194@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:12:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jLEygqP9H8NUpHpXv2gr4BFaJRb5UDNOnldWiPGDRSk=; b=WieQhT+R/3OLse6XAEVks8LhQJ +S/whIxEv6JklJy+olNEbVoXXfrwKXE+eeqdrEJx6zs3gyNg1ARKLdT6y4Dt/7E5kVx6elhKEeYcl /CM2RzAfRI9vGLyzZOIkzh5waOm+Hj/FLLkwM381EbyV3z9I1rLn/1Hvj/7t4HpHk/pQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwRxJ-0002AT-MJ; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:11:56 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Arthur Russell's _The Fruit of the Original Sin_: "Sketch for 'Face of Helen'" In-Reply-To: <87tuloegsa.5.fsf@jidanni.org> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Wed, 23 Jun 2021 23:34:29 +0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208940 Archived-At: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > I hereby propose an additional value, call it one of: > > 'always > 'no-matter-what > 'plus-newline-even-at-eof > 'plus-newline-even-if-none-in-reality > >> See (info "(emacs) Customize Save") for require-final-newline. Bye. > > Wait! Who says I even want the file to end in a newline? I just want > kill-whole-line to have a setting to consistently get a newline at the > end, and not 99% of the time. > >> Then add a newline there yourself and remove it when you are finished. B= ye. > > Wait! The file might even be a readonly file owned by someone else. I > can't just "add one there myself." > >> Well then copy the file first. Bye. > > Seems like overkill, just to kill (copy) one line. > > Anyway 'plus-newline-even-if-none-in-reality etc., being non-nil, would > also be 99% backwards compatible too! I'm not quite sure what this essay is trying to express -- are you asking for a new setting for `kill-whole-line' that deletes the preceding newline if you call `C-k' at the start of the final line in a buffer, and that final line doesn't have a newline at the end? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no