From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adam Porter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:01:47 -0500 Message-ID: <87lf3giw10.fsf@alphapapa.net> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87ee99dv34.fsf@gmail.com> <07cf50ddddb5a9556aa94201a7ac88c9@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <13419e1a-d257-2a94-baaa-dcb555ec8619@yandex.ru> <9ecf597461d0ae82c9c6@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36852"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 28 17:03:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVEdu-0009Hq-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:03:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVEds-0005Yo-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40640) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVEcK-0004V6-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:37786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVEcI-0002su-D0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVEcG-00074r-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:01:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275697 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: >> Perhaps we could alleviate this by requiring that shorthands end >> with a particular character (like '/' or ':'), so that if you see it >> in a name, it's probably a shorthand. > > I'd vote for '@'. It's not used in core nor in ELPA, it's only used > in (very few) MELPA packages. I wouldn't like seeing "@" in symbol names, IMHO. And we may be getting ahead of ourselves. But let the bikeshedding commence. :) Adam (who may someday use "~/" as a local shorthand in packages)