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From: dick <dick.r.chiang@gmail.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities]
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:46:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf383nsm.fsf_-_@dick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ky7w5-0006G9-HB@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:17 -0500")

herr Doctor,

I'd wager the hundred or so guys who identify most with GNU would, if a
referendum were taken, say that:

1. Non-free is not an injustice,

2. *Gratis* is far and away more important to our users than *libre*, and

3. Non-free software can be used without compunction to improve our own *free*
software, and in countless ways, already does.

In other words, I'll book an emission-intensive flight to the climate
conference if it means I don't have to join Greta on her toilet-less
trans-Atlantic catamaran.

I presume NonGNU Elpa was your idea, and it was the right one.  Now we just
need to take that initiative to its logical conclusion.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 252+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-30 16:23 [ELPA] New package: repology.el Nicolas Goaziou
2020-12-30 19:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30 21:01   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-31 13:31     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-31 11:46   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-12-31 13:11     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-31 20:30       ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-01  7:31         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 10:05         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-01 11:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02  9:56             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-02  5:30           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 12:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 14:39               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 15:00                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-04 16:32                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-05  6:45                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05  8:56                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07  7:34                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 15:02                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 16:29                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:08                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 17:12                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:17                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 17:58                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:43                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-04 17:55                           ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-01-04 18:51                             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-04 22:21                               ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-01-05  2:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-05  6:42                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05  9:28                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-06  5:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06  9:44                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 17:51                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 19:14                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-04 19:17                             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-06  5:02                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06 10:58                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-06 14:41                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 14:59                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-06 15:21                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 16:23                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-06 18:53                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 19:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-06 21:18                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-06 21:25                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07  7:47                                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                         ` <E1kxGuO-00079C-NR@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                           ` <b94804db-7140-d450-6fc2-5afa440a8736@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                             ` <E1kxZru-0007Cl-DD@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:46                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 21:07                                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08  7:04                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:14                                                     ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-08 11:46                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:51                                                         ` Aldric Giacomoni
2021-01-08 16:23                                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:47                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:42                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:11                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:09                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:29                                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 19:17                                                         ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-09  6:41                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:24                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:09                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:19                                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 13:46                                                             ` dick [this message]
2021-10-04 14:20                                                               ` Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 20:53                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  7:25                                                           ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Jean Louis
2021-01-10 17:18                                                           ` Devin Prater
2021-01-11 15:57                                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:40                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:40                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:47                                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:10                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:32                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:42                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 13:53                                                     ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
2021-01-08 17:22                                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 18:38                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:40                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10  6:06                                                       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11  4:42                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:00                                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:11                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:10                                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:42                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:37                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:41                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:31                                                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-13  5:29                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:37                                                         ` Arthur Miller
     [not found]                                               ` <2c5399e3-fa36-575d-d662-c7498dc334d6@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                                 ` <X/dsHBhcgPAXbqwe@protected.rcdrun.com>
2021-01-07 20:34                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 20:47                                                     ` Jean Louis
     [not found]                                               ` <834kjslexq.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <E1kxcV3-0005Rt-7a@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-08  7:06                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 11:48                                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:34                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 13:56                                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 14:45                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 18:27                                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 19:38                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09  6:41                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:54                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:07                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10  6:04                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10  6:04                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07  8:54                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 14:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 18:18                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 19:31                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:07                                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 21:17                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-08 17:22                                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 19:43                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09  6:41                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:57                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:48                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  5:59                                                   ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11  4:43                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:35                                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:10                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 15:20                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 15:28                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12  6:11                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:08                                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:43                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:46                                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-09  6:34                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 19:04                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11  4:43                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:37                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:43                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07  7:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 11:41                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09  6:39                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 10:50                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 14:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07  8:15                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 14:37                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 19:38                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 20:31                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:38                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:00                                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  6:58                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:24                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 11:28                                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:35                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09  8:39                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:13                                                 ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-06 20:36                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-07  7:48                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 16:53                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-14  5:21                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:52                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-16  5:14                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07  8:49                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07  7:49                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07  9:00                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  6:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08  6:25                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08  6:30                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:45                                           ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:11                                             ` frepology.org Jean Louis
2021-01-11  4:47                                               ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 10:55                                     ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-07 11:46                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 19:38                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-07 20:23                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 11:54                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:23                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:35                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 18:18                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-09  6:34                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 21:07                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-11  4:46                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12  8:24                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-20  6:14                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-21 11:09                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-22  6:06                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-22  9:43                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-24  6:35                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24  8:34                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25  5:53                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25  6:52                                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 12:11                                                       ` Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY
2021-01-25 15:29                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27  7:37                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 15:51                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 17:59                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 18:21                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26  3:40                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-26  6:10                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 13:42                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 18:32                                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 19:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:38                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 13:21                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26  5:59                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 13:15                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-27  7:41                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24 10:53                                                 ` Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: " Jean Louis
2021-01-24 17:50                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-24 19:12                                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-01-24 19:53                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:36                                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25 15:06                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  6:01                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 15:57                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:03                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 16:13                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:14                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 16:31                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 22:55                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-28  6:29                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-28 14:08                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-29  6:36                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24 20:47                                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 15:13                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 17:50                                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 17:56                                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 19:27                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  3:50                                                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-26  6:09                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 20:10                                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25 20:21                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  6:09                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25  5:53                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 15:27                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:46                                                       ` tomas
2021-01-27  7:35                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25  5:53                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25  9:27                                                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-26  6:03                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26  9:24                                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-27  7:43                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 15:43                                                             ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-01-26 16:48                                                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-01-28  6:34                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25  5:51                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-16  5:21                                       ` freedom issues in free software Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 15:05                                     ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Stefan Monnier
2021-01-13 15:57                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05  6:33               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 11:21                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07  7:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-30 21:58 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v2) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-04 11:45   ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v3) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-04 17:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-19  9:50       ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v4) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-20  6:13         ` Richard Stallman

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