From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id SDTPNnEWvGE6fgEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 05:47:45 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 4LSIMnEWvGEKYgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 04:47:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D2D34E2B for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 05:47:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:49946 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1my59k-0001mV-3M for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:47:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1my594-0001mK-Qc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:47:03 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1my594-0006u1-Hr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:47:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1my594-0002m2-FQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#52547: 29.0.50; Confusing behavior of org-timer-set Resent-From: Kyle Meyer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 04:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52547 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Received: via spool by 52547-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52547.16397163647852 (code B ref 52547); Fri, 17 Dec 2021 04:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 52547) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2021 04:46:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1my587-00022K-RS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:46:04 -0500 Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:60531) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1my585-0001yf-B9 for 52547@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:46:02 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. 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(minutes or h:mm:ss)' > 5. type '10m' > > Expected: The timer runs for 10 minutes. > Actual: The timer runs for 10 seconds. > > From the perspective of the user, this makes no sense. Yes, it seems better to at least signal a user-error if the input doesn't match the expected format. Anyway, I'm redirecting this to the Org list. Perhaps someone there will be interested in improving this behavior or reviewing a patch that does so. > P.S. I would also expect auto-load on "org-timer-set". org-timer-set-timer has been autoloaded since 4e2795413 (Add autoload cookie to org-timer-set-timer, 2009-07-27).