From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54993: 28.1; Editing etc/NEWS on master with Emacs 28 signals an error Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87lew09gp0.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83czhfy583.fsf@gnu.org> <10f8d75a-1c3d-aa83-2cb9-4619df9925ad@gmail.com> <878rs3mm4p.fsf@gnus.org> <874k2qn5pl.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfq9b7hw.fsf@gnus.org> <874k2pb2i8.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgkh9mnq.fsf@gnus.org> <83bkwxukfg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, 54993@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 20 13:08:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nh8CW-0007Ff-9M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38026 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh8CU-0000Cp-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 07:08:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60958) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7qU-0007Sq-5A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51276) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7qT-0000TZ-Re for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:46:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7qT-0000hl-P8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:46:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54993 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54993-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54993.16504515282664 (code B ref 54993); Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54993) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2022 10:45:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45173 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7pw-0000gu-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7pu-0000gh-B8 for 54993@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:45:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a3mVQbF4cLW3CitPcuxZW4jyCrjrLOufB3iruXqMN7M=; b=P4T1N5R1z9FE56Lw3i0z8K0CtV U8dp/wYhHNXiuzY6dIA+5yR8DBk94AA53hPBBaE9VTN77v7qpgoJUBsOV0UZ5X4AMZKSx5/sm0s01 hwJHyx095DiDIDnI1oGIsUzfcCsO1Bm6rHzQg+0/Zs9f0sVAZq42q25uRHPaJYGreuRk=; Original-Received: from [176.75.143.124] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nh7pl-0000xO-A6; Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:45:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83bkwxukfg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:06:43 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230287 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Now the only issue that remains, AFAICT, is the different key bindings > for outline-related commands in NEWES, caused by the fact that > emacs-news-mode activates outline-minor-mode. Could we perhaps solve > this by having emacs-news-mode be derived from outline-mode, not from > text-mode? If not, why not? I thought it would be more consistent to have both emacs-news-view-mode and emacs-news-mode use outline-minor-mode, but I don't really have a strong opinion here. (We're moving all the "help"-ish buffers to use outline-minor-mode, after all.) But emacs-news-mode is for editing, so perhaps it makes sense to use outline-mode here. It does steal an awful lot of the `C-c C-*' keys, though, so I'm not very enthusiastic about outline-mode in general and think we should avoid it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no