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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master f2d2fe6fc8: server-execute: Initialize the *scratch* buffer
Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 08:41:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87levhe24h.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8rrhxsyr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Hello,

On Wed 04 May 2022 at 10:42am -04, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>>> If you could factor out the commonality (and remove the gratuitous
>>> differences along the way), I'd be grateful.
>>> In my experience, it's always worth it in the long run (and it's
>>> generally an opportunity to improve the code, because once it only
>>> exists at a single place, it's much easier to add functionality and
>>> customizability to it).
>> In order to factor it out of the C as well I need to define it in C with
>> the DEFUN macro, right?  Otherwise each C callsite would have to use
>> Ffuncall, which doesn't seem right.
>
> Yup.  Using Ffuncall (of `call1`, call2`, ...) is not in itself
> a problem, especially for code like this which is not
> performance critical.  But I suspect that using a DEFUN might be a better
> option here for bootstrap reasons (if the code needs to be run before
> things like `subr.el` have been loaded).

In order to make all these cases consistent, my new code will (insert
(substitute-command-keys initial-scratch-message)), so it's going to
require that both help.el and startup.el have been loaded.  So I guess
it should be in Lisp.

It looks like Fother_window is called only from Fcall_interactively and
Fkill_buffer, so there probably isn't a bootstrapping issue if I make
those Ffuncall my new `get-initial-buffer-create'.  It looks like
bootstrapping C code just makes an empty *scratch* and leaves it to
startup.el to initialise it.

-- 
Sean Whitton



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20220504011059.9F667C009A8@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-05-04  2:14   ` master f2d2fe6fc8: server-execute: Initialize the *scratch* buffer Stefan Monnier
2022-05-04  5:40     ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-04 12:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-04 14:23         ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-04 14:34           ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-04 14:46             ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-04 14:56               ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-04 14:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-04 15:41             ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2022-05-04 16:26               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-05 22:07                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-05 22:13                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-06 11:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-06 19:20                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-06 19:24                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-06  5:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-06 19:26                     ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-07  5:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 13:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-07 14:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 16:29                         ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-07 16:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-07 17:02                             ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-06  7:41                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-06 19:28                     ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-08  0:27                   ` bug#55257: " Sean Whitton
2022-05-09 18:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-10  1:49                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-10  1:49                       ` bug#55257: " Sean Whitton
2022-05-09 18:11                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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