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Tue, 16 Aug 2022 03:25:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mtc8ib7m.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 13 Aug 2022 14:23:25 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:8C66lHCGBZzObz5X9omtK/t2Tpq440y5hbm/P4ElSaeE896HQmf aurFzPfHTssDy/zl2aD5TJs2OxdNiMAaZlFLMycL3QUAYKCvMBsYYCpADThKPx93Vp2HmQ2 YIN+VfAFiOMD42RK10z1Lu/CJs/CRi01Rboy0q9UN1o/YsIMJFkBwnFw23Tra2qNcxS5I1w gTGbloA1EYnU3c+EtkNIg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:l9X9yNYtppU=:sqoJxE9PM74W5XQMzYv9eX UyIvZpkYHAJ8KxLUjX1ooRWboHbImjIOnpmDy9DMxNX/dyJLugX8a06Zx7igh76kqSCg28Dp6 rlA1s6zx4LOylGPWKedhq0oY3v8J4J5SJs0p6Ctk0wxpOzq0oSKDPPXtbcvIulkkTU4wAo9+z 7QaRXYqA1zeXR/vj8RaoAtK8vKeqNDNSxmNDqFR8WPFaxFFHYE5v6a9j84vho585oNQyT5USh g1YfKPmfn4PEMaL6sMHTeqfyyBQW4JzB5DuON/B1EGENJejUXc2P2vLaZbqu6z2w3izAa8lld gJjMbp4HRwVkmtMiLKlrdBLTFMYCEHVfNG8OvLptu8MOfU9DTuKwzTXAYNRCeyKoBiTUrDsdF pQwt65Sr4syJBkA2EpS+dmw1rfUaEtvGOAP6gEDmd4FWwKX2Tiir0NOkrBRHdYy60yrGG0rHE UTjGj6ev+FR5dGxZl3CdTldMJijJA+vqS/yQqwDnLNODNIZtNDxGFwwLl7IXdf5vaUuY+BUkv bL1q6sA+xhfLHrBT+uQhH3dbpIUQbh7RNZOV+K0QHvqj7R6LjF8ZXXdbs2N7OHiRtrBQs3Ng1 m/ukv76BPQQ0SAcCf68ea/oo06kvSp1iQd/+2GFyAX3DdYw4POrjIJMPxyuweV8090jRiqDac +6b6mH3dXLIt8+qFb+8llWL1WKMXOy2VKA8ffFVtdiE0nF5c7q+S508Ve0UQBgD6+MWkIz/EN Q8LfVdFRRQ/c2HptmUnJHwcm9p8YzpHfivr6Em+/nhIMi8kNy4iqWRdtl3ptmOn6+eLy+tes X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:239858 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I've never used this mode before, and I'm kinda flabbergasted that > something as esoteric as this is bound to by default. That whole 2C library is a bit esoteric. If you edit the remaining narrow window and try to merge (again), the second column is actually doubled in the original buffer. That narrow window is useless, it's even harmful! BTW, I tried a buffer with this contents: 1 11 2 22 3 33 If you place the cursor before the separator (space char) instead of after it, C-x 6 s infloops. Not nice. I then though: Do these narrow windows maybe suggest that one can iterate 2C processing to conveniently edit more than two columns? But no, that just messes the original buffer if you try. So this bug report is one detail. The whole library doesn't look very intuitive and user friendly. Maybe 0.02 users in the world understand it and make good use of it. Or maybe it has never been a good package. I have tried to use it multiple times and was always disappointed about the experience. It gives an unfinished impression. Seems not good that it occupies F2, and also not good that it's built in. Michael.