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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296202 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > To be fair, the impact on the build process was not really my main > concern. My concern is that Org does not respect the GNU standards. We do. Org does provide manual in Texinfo format. The fact that our texinfo version is auto-generated is irrelevant wrt GNU Standards. > What do you think of my proposal to produce an example document, > demonstrating the Org syntax and its possibilities? > > It would surely help us test our own code (parser and exporters) and > help others write parsers/exporters (outside of Emacs). See https://orgmode.org/list/87fsqzi4tw.fsf@localhost P.S. Note that I am trying to keep discussion relevant to this emacs-devel thread. More serious discussion about switching back from .org to .texinfo should probably happen at Org ML. -- Ihor Radchenko, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/. Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode, or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92