From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Protesilaos Stavrou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] Add Agitate package Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 05:14:37 +0300 Message-ID: <87leq4w8he.fsf@protesilaos.com> References: <875yh9xsmx.fsf@protesilaos.com> <87ill8er5k.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <875yh8wxat.fsf@protesilaos.com> <87h70sbhf8.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21570"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Notmuch/0.37 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 28 04:16:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odMcO-0005Pj-BC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 04:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50608 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odMcM-0006s2-Lp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odMb2-0006CY-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:14:48 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::231]:60413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odMaz-0002cI-Ga for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:14:48 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: public@protesilaos.com) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17320100004; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 02:14:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protesilaos.com; s=gm1; t=1664331281; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=BW2i3BJ9I3E/6dq1qid0DnQOI7UqVtSW3bxhHn2pOg0=; b=KwjtneF6p7wpZ8AhV/0duQ0BIJO/4L61XcAmFol5lgrxUA3AwEleu+RJxxHTUM7hsu67uV UpFvWtnfzvX53I86MBEQMnmp9k9AS7NaInwv4jUJ2xRoSg321UdilupHgk3SnK//fjkCWC hHc8G9It0yQt78s14JlcRyGUgUqzG3pV3YcroCrPyI09VcGitvge6Pw2r+4nwR7imQVbK2 xksvm4vzywjEfEj6OKWU/QkR7/s/zIogpxX+oUEKrhf6Nthu3RizOqXjx57vzSQ3S0Fe+h 6X+64mH9rp8h9iFPLx5UPjZ2IWT9kdjAV1qpKm8HiVkhs4isFW8mQwo8n6S90w== In-Reply-To: <87h70sbhf8.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Received-SPF: none client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::231; envelope-from=info@protesilaos.com; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296379 Archived-At: > From: Sean Whitton > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 15:07:07 -0700 > [... 11 lines elided] >> I think that what I have and am working towards (this is not the >> finished article) is coherent in terms of workflow. Though I wanted >> to have this discussion exactly because I may be caught in a bubble >> and misjudging things. > > I don't know about being caught in a bubble, but based on reading the > file I cannot observe the coherency. Perhaps you could try articulating > it in prose, if you want me to try again. However, I would suggest just > working on patches to emacs.git instead, and having the rest of us think > about those singularly. It will be articulated as well. This is a matter of developing the package and getting it to a stable version. It still is in its early days and lots of ideas are not implemented yet. Individual patches will not happen at this stage. I am not ready. Those are the end goal. Now is the stage of exploration and experimentation: putting code together and testing if it is worth having. The package gives me something to work towards. -- Protesilaos Stavrou https://protesilaos.com