From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: sbaugh@catern.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Native graphical Emacs on Android Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: <87lepyjqtv.fsf@catern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5851"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QsYNRzMeb2fWFYSAYLPmgYChisY= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 15:36:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oez8S-0001NG-So for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 15:36:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33902 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oez8R-00033R-ND for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oez3E-0008Pg-Kr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:44178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oez3A-00068B-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:30:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oez36-00054j-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 15:30:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:34:34 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296606 Archived-At: I would like to be able to use graphical Emacs (e.g. with rendered images, buttons, menus, etc. rather than Emacs in a terminal emulator) on Android. I think this would work best with a native port of Emacs to Android's UI framework, such that Emacs shows up as a native Android app. (rather than running an X server and then running Emacs on top of that, which works poorly in my experience.) Note that compiling Emacs to run on Android and render in a terminal or X server is basically trivial; it's teaching Emacs to render with Android's UI framework that is hard. Porting Emacs to any new UI framework is very hard, I know. I don't think a fully-native (PGTK-style) port is necessary; something hacky would be fine. But I don't know anything about Android. Has anyone worked on this before? Is this at all plausible? I would be willing to fund development of such a port, if a developer can be found to work on it.