From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 30.0 warning from `cl-pushnew' and `memql' Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 20:24:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87lemrqqld.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <878ritgaty.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87o7rprvia.fsf@web.de> <87zgb913fg.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ilhveo2s.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZIzazOIO8THQjXSjKXhWnpOG7iU= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 29 23:16:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pB1Cf-0000UI-FS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:16:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pB1CS-0003ZP-1s; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:16:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAc32-0008Cw-Eh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 14:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAc30-0001ro-Qe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 14:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pAc2v-0004JK-Sr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 20:25:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:16:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142033 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >> I see. Well, that train has sailed (or something). >> Backward compat (especially with user's brains) and things. > > I think that's the wrong way to think about this. > The default for `cl-pushnew' should be `eql' because the > default for CL `pushnew' is `eql'. End of story. Yeah, it gets easier that way, for sure. > If a better default predicate exists for Elisp then Elisp > should add its own `pushnew', using that better predicate > as default. Indeed, note that it doesn't have to be a matter of a single function being the one default, it can be many defaults depending on the type of the argument value. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal