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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	 Mickey Petersen <mickey@masteringemacs.org>,
	 Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>,
	Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: Extending define-derived-mode
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 08:30:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87legyb9br.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20F07C52-6B39-4B24-8433-82E2226EADA6@gmail.com> (Yuan Fu's message of "Mon, 29 May 2023 22:16:49 -0700")

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> When we were adding tree-sitter modes a couple of month ago, it was
> clear that the current major mode model needs some upgrade, I’d like
> to discuss the things we need and how can we address them.

Perhaps this is a stupid suggestion (since I am permanently behind on
developments wrt. tree-sitter), but might it be that the notions of
"major modes" just aren't strong enough of an abstraction to talk about
languages?  Just like we have user options that have a relation to
regular variables, wouldn't it make sense to provide something like
"language modes" that would provide a higher-level and a more
specialised vocabulary.

This might also tie into the issue of inconsistent bindings for
semantically "analogous" operations between major modes (compiling,
opening a REPL, requesting documentation, etc.) or the issues of
duplicate configurations options that all raise the barrier when trying
out a new major mode or switching between languages.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:16 Extending define-derived-mode Yuan Fu
2023-05-30  5:51 ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-05-31 20:35   ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-01  5:43     ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-05-30 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-30 14:16   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-05-31 21:31     ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-01  4:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-06-01  6:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  7:50           ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-02 11:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-05  7:31               ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-05 11:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-08  7:25                   ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-02  7:44         ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-02 16:46           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-06-05  7:39             ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-05 15:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-05-31 20:48   ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-01  5:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  7:45       ` Yuan Fu
2023-06-02 11:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-30 17:24 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-05  8:30 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]

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