From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lucien Cartier-Tilet Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:28:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87lediton4.fsf@phundrak.com> References: <87v8d0iqa5.fsf@posteo.net> <87cyz3vaws.fsf@localhost> <87a5tzsbvl.fsf@localhost> <87fs3qoqy6.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="===-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20111"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.10.7; emacs 29.1.50 To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 07 09:51:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qe9nF-0004zM-ID for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:51:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qe9ms-0006vb-5p; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 03:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qe9mo-0006vS-NV for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 03:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from 105.ip-51-83-47.eu ([51.83.47.105] helo=mail.phundrak.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qe9mj-00074I-MQ for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 03:50:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Mailerdaemon) with ESMTPSA id 09F28C5DFF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2023 09:42:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=phundrak.com; s=dkim; t=1694072577; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to: references; bh=BwmTkxGBUYyGXru+wt57iewqiL7OZfvWyNT5C0llFaE=; b=jTpQvgMTND/uJPI9OOQNnDbMRMc3Y/+kmpt6Od6gRxcrXblQeql8fyzFG6P47dNHzw1+qA gtZXeRENAcgU0dK6p6FBKnSKYSsvHTXizauoNDymMQHHt3OtgnDfK+nLv8U4zMYwrMkHeY 62lzz4HVm4762x2zQIJSa5FhZqvXtE4= In-reply-to: <87fs3qoqy6.fsf@dataswamp.org> X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=51.83.47.105; envelope-from=lucien@phundrak.com; helo=mail.phundrak.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:1054 Archived-At: --===-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emanuel Berg writes: > Can't we, i.e. GNU, offer a server where you can run FOSS > programs that offer services? > > Wouldn't that be "their" software to people who use it? > > They could improve the software like any other FOSS project > and, if necessary even, fork it to also run on the > server alongside. This is exactly what a French non-profit organisation (Framasoft [1]) does, they offer multiple services with FOSS software such as: =2D Framadate (simple polls), =2D Framaform (alternative to Google Forms), =2D Framapad (alternative to Google Docs), =2D Mobilizon (event plannifier), And quite a few others, I=E2=80=99ll let you check the list of their servic= es [2]. They are even the main developers of both PeerTube, an AGPL video service on the Fediverse, and of Mobilizon which I mentioned above and which is also AGPL. [1] [2] =2D- Lucien =E2=80=9CPhundrak=E2=80=9D Cartier-Tilet (Fran=C3=A7ais) (English) Sent from GNU/Emacs --==-=-=-- --=-=-=-- --===-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJIBAEBCAAyFiEEViv9D3b9mE+uAC3AvXeJ5wXLjcoFAmT5fv8UHGx1Y2llbkBw aHVuZHJhay5jb20ACgkQvXeJ5wXLjcoyEhAAkNk8itvYfZmSDnPrIEEf52rZ4Wlc 6axN4rhegM6bnL+rJdQB4ffJmJd+62Kxe4+2driBEb2RtekJK9qfBtskI6bFV/eL +JtnNsv9IGqPXoLj+uAZwpmGro7c1evBVq2LXcweChofpMoMFZ6cCqoGNy7zlzJs COfbMxtWJeFazu1vWJZk8s5JckL1pZ57yOG7wW3BiS0gCgMertMpIMUYvVhPTVIP 3QVURN7wQB97rW+xafdycbtFTceJrl36FW6BL4bwrJRjfU+LQgf44R42ZbHEq6Ag FYtEraggLfxPdAsPH4QxeOAwE5I4340YVsiBvosmjB29XYecFfxfOicJEMSc2ZO5 CNVGfGGyWi+W9K3hDUXA+shxOnQRgrw4A88A/2oH2SNSbtPlS+1O5SxsiO+W3SIN NUpYQffapXXq7uhMUMQB44k3MxbLJM41RCYMRsK7gOt46QCbOQs0BbqkVBiA23LJ vd7fmL/vQrPJAvC6pIVYZUebZzkwnSkHSEOik3VdCo98rWt138xRCO2hkybUZR4o Qr9DFzMiBPwaC99/w4ZqGPDDbmvcggkcllIVdWlHh9LNpjhrCx3K61ifGDyB0nwE 2dvpeJd1oiBJWmirRee7N0HWMI+FQ3Wbx4L4yM3QryXEBdNGpIFaMPvds7IfXqaV MZpCjZSR43leldQ= =dSDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===-=-=--