From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: compat.el and Emacs unstable master branch features (was: bug#63513: [PATCH] Make persist-defvar work with records and hash tables) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 08:45:28 +0000 Message-ID: <87ledd85ef.fsf@localhost> References: <87wn1axgh6.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <87a5xubwoo.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <87v8csku60.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <83cyyz94c6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5u2ydzg.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <83msy25g0s.fsf@gnu.org> <624CBB7F-1442-400D-8D4D-1B26EBE9DACB@breatheoutbreathe.in> <877cp5bmig.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <871qvz4kdw.fsf@localhost> <8734zoaolv.fsf@localhost> <87fs3o8uil.fsf@localhost> <87msxwa8kd.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <87il8j7ji9.fsf@localhost> <80479897-500e-fe60-6586-0a44ccb5993b@daniel-mendler.de> <877coz7f6h.fsf@localhost> <86d6e412-9e5b-9086-56ce-e3794085096a@daniel-mendler.de> <874jk37dgh.fsf@localhost> <3f6176d5-ccc9-ec37-8adc-4e221388e164@daniel-mendler.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21731"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Joseph Turner , Stefan Monnier , Adam Porter , Eli Zaretskii , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ~pkal/compat-devel@lists.sr.ht To: Daniel Mendler Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 11 10:45:33 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qfcY0-0005Ln-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 10:45:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfcX6-00055B-TN; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfcX5-00054y-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qfcX2-0001fO-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BFBD240029 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 10:44:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1694421869; bh=BOfGbfzpnO1OYOjH7hAxMbmn26Z1TxyNrTHTVEtPoGE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=GWt9V36T/vhnkJSpH64PHyPrbhqSUqXSUN7ccTQuaII4HXVI3IFoRnmd/R8ZX6CtN vkAl+mSkVQo96j3TZPgN3WX/aa2RLIGtA7s3b5RjvpDDQ/5YoC5K64gX11WCIYixzv kDJs2ZgSttBTrONSTC3U5tYe3rxR3pkVKnVFkf3kEFa3OKUA6RFxFxXBYuF3x51/+N vwYPBFMIM4ulFMhVkJovgDIP21fsKeiwN4XNUlRF98Kj9P2oeJgArP3CrRLFo5rh4X LsrDqmovTwcPAUlhfIca2qKRCWE8OanURPhZ1ghAyKlZVOaPEXb5DevduTwTtxQvDW WQO66j0C/x1Fg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RkgHv0QFBz6twg; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 10:44:26 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3f6176d5-ccc9-ec37-8adc-4e221388e164@daniel-mendler.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310455 Archived-At: Daniel Mendler writes: > ... Providing a public API won't work > since Compat is not included in Emacs itself. A design criterion of > Compat is also to keep the public API surface as small as possible. Maybe it is the time to consider including the compat.el API into Emacs? We are getting a number of :core packages published on ELPA and naturally having to solve various compatibility problems. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at