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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315686 Archived-At: Jeremy Bryant writes: > Here is a suggestion - include which-key in core and potentially enable > by for new users. > > I understand it is in ELPA already. > > Author Justin has expressed openness to the idea in > https://github.com/justbur/emacs-which-key/issues/355 I don't think enabling it by default is all that desirable, since its popups are far more intrusive than keystrokes are when echoed, but moving it to core is a decent idea.