From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Worg] CSS improvements
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:48:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87le659hgv.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00a7258c-d3ef-4a22-ae08-35c62d71cc27@alphapapa.net>
Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:
>>> What is the purpose of centering text if not to make it stand out?
>>
>> To align text. I am not sure why anything more is necessary - it
>> is certainly counter-intuitive for me that "center" means something more
>> than just alignment.
>
> Again, what is the purpose of centering text? The answer, "To align
> text," is tautological.
I am very confused. Of course, it is tautological. "center" container is
aiming to align the text. That's why it is named "center".
> Especially, on Worg, where the whole site serves as a kind of extended
> user manual, the purpose of centering text is, what, if not to make it
> stand out?
To align text... I really do not understand why one would _anticipate_
that #+begin_center is doing anything other than center alignment.
>> If you need extra highlighting, we may introduce a dedicated style and
>> apply it via special block.
>
> Why, when we already have #+begin_center? Currently it's not even used
> at all. This would not change anything that already exists; it would
> make something that already exists useful.
It would break expectations.
It will also differ from ox-html output with the default css style
`org-html-style-default':
.org-center { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; }
>> Mostly because it is unexpected, as I described above.
>> I'd prefer to stick closer to the semantics and just apply alignment to
>> center blocks.
>
> *shrug* Worg has existed for years without even doing anything with
> #+begin_center blocks--not even centering them. I propose that we make
> it useful and serve its natural purpose, rather than adding a special
> new block that most users won't even know about (having to find it in
> the voluminous Worg content isn't likely to happen for most users).
I do not see how, without documentation, one would expect that
#+begin_center can be used for highlighting and not for text alignment.
From my point of view, it is worse than a special block - not only this
ad-hoc convention is not documented; it will also break expectations
about what #+begin_center does.
What about:
1. Introducing a new special block for highlighting
2. Documenting it in https://orgmode.org/worg/worg-editing.html
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-26 14:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-23 14:35 [Worg] CSS improvements Adam Porter
2024-03-23 14:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-24 6:14 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-24 8:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-24 9:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-03-25 14:09 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-26 14:48 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-03-27 3:20 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-28 11:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-28 12:41 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-28 13:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-28 17:53 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-29 9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-29 22:38 ` How to organize tasks about Worg within Worg documents (was: Re: [Worg] CSS improvements) Adam Porter
2024-03-29 23:30 ` Thomas S. Dye
2024-03-30 2:27 ` How to organize tasks about Worg within Worg documents Adam Porter
2024-03-30 10:47 ` How to organize tasks about Worg within Worg documents (was: Re: [Worg] CSS improvements) Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-31 15:43 ` How to organize tasks about Worg within Worg documents Adam Porter
2024-04-01 11:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-01 18:02 ` Adam Porter
2024-05-12 12:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-12 13:42 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-26 22:12 ` [Worg] CSS improvements David Rogers
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