From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: mbork@mbork.pl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: differentiating real and fake command events Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:44:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87ldwgt6kn.fsf@mbork.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10861"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Psionic K Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 16 08:46:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tN5oH-0002j3-8Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:46:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tN5o0-0003W2-4O; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 02:46:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tN5ny-0003Vl-44 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 02:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tN5nv-0006Vi-N6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 02:46:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170F611B4B5E; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:45:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWi1Q-Noig5o; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:45:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (apn-37-248-173-158.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl [37.248.173.158]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFA6711B4B5B; Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:45:01 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Psionic K.'s message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2024 15:00:44 +0900") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=195.110.48.8; envelope-from=mbork@mbork.pl; helo=mail.mojserwer.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148824 Archived-At: On 2024-12-15, at 15:00, Psionic K wrote: >> I don't understand enough of the context. Could you explain in what way >> you need something different from `execute-kbd-macro`? > > I'm implementing "live" demo features for dslide. It relies on > playing back macros at human speed. The goal is to emulate the > results of using Emacs by hand, to appear as a live demonstration, but > with reproducibility. This frees the presenter from having to think > and type at the same time while still conveying the organic experience > to those watching. Keyboard macros executed via `execute-kbd-macro' > replay input at inhuman speed and lose the similarity of feedback that > enables the audience to relate what they see with what they normally > do. Are you aware of the demo-it package (https://github.com/howardabrams/demo-it)? Also, I had a similar idea (to use keyboard macros for demo-it "presentations"), see here: https://mbork.pl/2017-08-07_demo-it_recording#. BTW, I saw some discussion about dslide on R*ddit, it looks very promising! I might need something for a presentation soon, I am /very/ tempted to use dslide for that! Just my 2 cents... -- Marcin Borkowski https://mbork.pl https://crimsonelevendelightpetrichor.net/