gnus filter

gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Is there a simple filter to remove cross posted articles in gnus? I
know you can do anything in elisp, but this seems rather simple.

TIA.

Re: gnus filter

[Kai Grossjohann]

Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:

> Is there a simple filter to remove cross posted articles in gnus? I
> know you can do anything in elisp, but this seems rather simple.

See variable gnus-use-cross-reference.  Use C-h v to see its
documentation.

Kai

Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> writes:

> Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > Is there a simple filter to remove cross posted articles in gnus? I
> > know you can do anything in elisp, but this seems rather simple.
> 
> See variable gnus-use-cross-reference.  Use C-h v to see its
> documentation.

Thanks.  Looks like the third option 

(setq gnus-use-cross-reference 'read-in-all)

is what I need.

Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:

> Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> writes:
> 
> > Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Is there a simple filter to remove cross posted articles in gnus? I
> > > know you can do anything in elisp, but this seems rather simple.
> > 
> > See variable gnus-use-cross-reference.  Use C-h v to see its
> > documentation.
> 
> Thanks.  Looks like the third option 
> 
> (setq gnus-use-cross-reference 'read-in-all)
> 
> is what I need.

I tried this, and according to the documentation:

If neither t nor nil, mark as read in all
newsgroups.

However, I still see the cross posted articles.  Is cross referencing
the same as cross posting?

TIA.

Re: gnus filter

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Sep 07 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:

> However, I still see the cross posted articles.

Are you sure that the articles are cross-posts rather than multiple
copies of the same content to different newsgroups?  Do the articles
have an "Xref:" header like this:

| Xref: news.here.invalid group.one:61660 group.two:13205

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Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 07 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:
> 
> > However, I still see the cross posted articles.
> 
> Are you sure that the articles are cross-posts rather than multiple
> copies of the same content to different newsgroups?  Do the articles
> have an "Xref:" header like this:
> 
> | Xref: news.here.invalid group.one:61660 group.two:13205

No, they are cross posts all right.  The really bad part about this is
a few hundred posts which are cross posted to some advocacy group, and
contentless.

Thanks.

Re: gnus filter

[Tim McNamara]

Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:

>>> Thanks.  Looks like the third option 
>> 
>> (setq gnus-use-cross-reference 'read-in-all)
>> 
>> is what I need.
>
> I tried this, and according to the documentation:
>
> If neither t nor nil, mark as read in all
> newsgroups.
>
> However, I still see the cross posted articles.  Is cross referencing
> the same as cross posting?
>
> TIA.

Odd.  I use Gnus 5.10.6 and I don't see crossposted articles in
newsgroups.  When I read an article in one group, it is removed from
the other groups it's crossposted to.  Looking at my .gnus, I don't
see anything specific for this, only:

     (setq nnmail-crosspost nil)

I don't think that's much help to you.

Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:

> Elvin Peterson <elvin_peterson@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> >>> Thanks.  Looks like the third option 
> >> 
> >> (setq gnus-use-cross-reference 'read-in-all)
> >> 
> >> is what I need.
> >
> > I tried this, and according to the documentation:
> >
> > If neither t nor nil, mark as read in all
> > newsgroups.
> >
> > However, I still see the cross posted articles.  Is cross referencing
> > the same as cross posting?
> >
> > TIA.
> 
> Odd.  I use Gnus 5.10.6 and I don't see crossposted articles in
> newsgroups.  When I read an article in one group, it is removed from
> the other groups it's crossposted to.  Looking at my .gnus, I don't
> see anything specific for this, only:
> 
>      (setq nnmail-crosspost nil)
> 
> I don't think that's much help to you.

I guess I wasn't very clear the first time around.  I don't want to
see cross posted articles, even if they are unread.  I want to avoid
the usual flame wars which are posted to both, say, MS and Linux
newsgroups.  I am using version 5.9.0.

Thanks.

Re: gnus filter

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Sep 08 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:

> I don't want to see cross posted articles, even if they are unread.
> I want to avoid the usual flame wars which are posted to both, say,
> MS and Linux newsgroups.  I am using version 5.9.0.

Put the following in your score file:

(("xref"
  (":.+:.+:" -1000 nil r))
 (mark-and-expunge -900))

":.+:.+:" will match all articles posted to three or more newsgroups.
Without the expunge line, the articles are marked as read, but still
visible.  Adjust to your needs.

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Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> On Wed, Sep 08 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:
> 
> > I don't want to see cross posted articles, even if they are unread.
> > I want to avoid the usual flame wars which are posted to both, say,
> > MS and Linux newsgroups.  I am using version 5.9.0.
> 
> Put the following in your score file:
> 
> (("xref"
>   (":.+:.+:" -1000 nil r))
>  (mark-and-expunge -900))
> 
> ":.+:.+:" will match all articles posted to three or more newsgroups.
> Without the expunge line, the articles are marked as read, but still
> visible.  Adjust to your needs.
> 

Thanks.  Looks like this is what I need.

Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> On Wed, Sep 08 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:
> 
> > I don't want to see cross posted articles, even if they are unread.
> > I want to avoid the usual flame wars which are posted to both, say,
> > MS and Linux newsgroups.  I am using version 5.9.0.
> 
> Put the following in your score file:
> 
> (("xref"
>   (":.+:.+:" -1000 nil r))
>  (mark-and-expunge -900))
> 
> ":.+:.+:" will match all articles posted to three or more newsgroups.
> Without the expunge line, the articles are marked as read, but still
> visible.  Adjust to your needs.
> 

This didn't work either.

Re: gnus filter

[Reiner Steib]

On Fri, Sep 10 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:

> Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:
>> Put the following in your score file:
>> 
>> (("xref"
>>   (":.+:.+:" -1000 nil r))
>>  (mark-and-expunge -900))
>> 
>> ":.+:.+:" will match all articles posted to three or more newsgroups.
>> Without the expunge line, the articles are marked as read, but still
>> visible.  Adjust to your needs.
>
> This didn't work either.

I works for me.

If you want help, you should give a more useful problem description.
What did you try?  How does it fail?  What doesn't work?  Scoring (see
`V t'), expunge?  In which score file did you put the entry?  Do other
score entries from this file work as expected?  Show us Xref line of
the article.  Did you modify my example? ...

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Re: gnus filter

[Elvin Peterson]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> On Fri, Sep 10 2004, Elvin Peterson wrote:
> 
> > Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:
> >> Put the following in your score file:
> >> 
> >> (("xref"
> >>   (":.+:.+:" -1000 nil r))
> >>  (mark-and-expunge -900))
> >> 
> >> ":.+:.+:" will match all articles posted to three or more newsgroups.
> >> Without the expunge line, the articles are marked as read, but still
> >> visible.  Adjust to your needs.
> >
> > This didn't work either.
> 
> I works for me.
> 
> If you want help, you should give a more useful problem description.
> What did you try?  How does it fail?  What doesn't work?  Scoring (see
> `V t'), expunge?  In which score file did you put the entry?  Do other
> score entries from this file work as expected?  Show us Xref line of
> the article.  Did you modify my example? ...

Well, the original didn't work, but now I have modified it as follows:

(("xref"
  (" .+ .+ " -1000 nil r))
 (mark-and-expunge -900))

And I no longer see the offending posts.  Thanks for the help.