From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bkhl@elektrubadur.se (=?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Lindstr=C3=B6m?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n... why? Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:36:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87k6e6f673.fsf@lucien.dreaming> References: <1133329096.909577.80790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11pmkm7sol448a9@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134684338 23552 80.91.229.2 (15 Dec 2005 22:05:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 15 23:05:37 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1En1BZ-0006pw-Lg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:02:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1En1CE-0002Ll-K0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emzuk-0003AM-9F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:41:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emzug-00038f-Bg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Emzuf-00038Z-VC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:41:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Emzwy-0004TV-Kw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Emzr8-0001Ur-6h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:38 +0100 Original-Received: from h60n6c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com ([81.228.157.60]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:38 +0100 Original-Received: from bkhl by h60n6c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:37:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h60n6c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com Mail-Copies-To: never X-Home-Page: http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:y9Y5cGg+qDApDypeAdNDjxjrdKE= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:31970 Archived-At: Mathias Dahl writes: > OK, the distance from the home row is shorter, but I still don't think > you can conclude that it is more efficient. For example, C-f require > "two" (or one, or one and a half if you want) keypresses while the > arrow keys require only single keypresses. That argument is a bit flawed. Too use the arrow keys you have to abandon the basic touch typing position completely and then find it again. This will take a lot longer than pressing any key combination you can reach from the basic position.