From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Zimmerman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: renaming current file and buffer Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87k6dg506g.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87u0cmclgy.fsf@hans.local.net> <8764p22d9j.fsf@gmail.com> <87acedd3bg.fsf@hans.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136333077 31255 80.91.229.2 (4 Jan 2006 00:04:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 01:04:33 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Etw8h-0002kB-BG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:04:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EtwAG-0006aQ-D2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Etw9g-0006YP-Ta for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Etw9b-0006Wc-5w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:05:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Etw9Z-0006WS-TP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.249.82.203] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EtwAs-0004oO-NR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:06:42 -0500 Original-Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t11so1600547wxc for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:to:cc:subject:references:from:in-reply-to:message-id:lines:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:date; b=XFCjrotbcg8/SjCIHyEZQT2o+FblNc+VrRLa9khl/UmUn+BISA3TCxP0SO+raXwKA2djqFYh/f+m+HU3emymEBbwq2E1EVGJ0RuRGzKYaQDu817fXokLad7owxWG7oWUpMNekvqHcBlpXFKHuO6hiCTQ4TfTJkQLboarCCcLpKw= Original-Received: by 10.70.122.16 with SMTP id u16mr254590wxc; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from unicorn ( [72.60.106.112]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm21911866wxd.2006.01.03.16.03.36; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from itz by unicorn with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Etw7r-0000R6-KP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:03:35 -0500 Original-To: Dieter Wilhelm In-Reply-To: <87acedd3bg.fsf@hans.local.net> Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32400 Archived-At: Dieter> Thank you for your reply. I'm new to newsgroups, may I ask why Dieter> you've written to my email address directly and copied your Dieter> message to `help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org', isn't it usual posting Dieter> directly (and solely) to the newsgroup? 1/ The list has a bidirectional gateway with the newsgroup, or so I assumed. Has my reply not appeared in the newsgroup? I have stopped using newsgroups at all because I can't find a quality free server in my area. My ISP has just stopped offering NNTP access altogether (not that I used it because it was crappy like most of them). 2/ http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html -- A true pessimist won't be discouraged by a little success.