From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Beck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Some Font & Face Questions (unicode--2) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:21:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87k5s38wkh.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> References: <87ps1xtqf9.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <499368B5-88D6-4F19-ADC0-E6162985E7C6@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186744895 29853 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2007 11:21:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:21:35 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 10 13:21:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IJSYd-0008UB-Jo for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:21:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJSYc-0000Wn-Ti for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJSYM-0000WH-F9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJSYJ-0000VF-9x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJSYI-0000V3-UE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.188]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IJSYI-0003dm-HB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (p54995D43.dip.t-dialin.net [84.153.93.67]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo27) (RZmta 11.0) with ESMTP id k06417j7AAXKCr for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:21:08 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <499368B5-88D6-4F19-ADC0-E6162985E7C6@Web.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:14:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-RZG-AUTH: z4gQVF2k7GqAyN1G8Lh5D6rtew== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46465 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 09.08.2007 um 04:03 schrieb Florian Beck: > >> 2. How do I find out about the possible fonts-specs? > > You did not mention whether you use in the experimental Unicode Emacs > 23 its font backend or not. Without it you need to edit X11's font I'm using the new font backend. > > If you have enabled the font backend then fontconfig is managing > Unicode Emacs' font use. This system relies on fonts.conf file, for > example: > > /etc/fonts/fonts.conf > /etc/fonts/local.conf > /usr/local/etc/fonts/fonts.conf > ~/.fonts.conf > > Then think of a longer break (lunch for example) and invoke as root > and in your own account fc-cache =E2=80=93 after half an hour or later yo= u'll > have the .fonts.cache-* files ... I know this. My problem is that fonts I install do not show up in xlsfonts or xfontsel, so figuring out the right foundry and family for the font spect requires digging through several font.cache files. Maybe my fontconfig is messed up? However, the fonts *are* installed: they show up in gucharmap and in emacs (set-fontset-font "fontset-default" 'han "-*-SimSun-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-unicode-bmp")=20 works just fine. But that is getting a little off topic here. > > I also have a ~/.fontconfig directory (almost 800 cache files, almost > 7 MB) of which I don't know where it comes from and what it's good > for ... > >> >> 3. I can set frame specific fonts. This works ok. Can I show different >> fonts in *windows*? If not, as I fear, can I at least have different >> font sizes in different windows, e.g. small fonts in *Help* windows? > > No, not yet. All windows in one frame have to share the same font or > fontset. But you can configure particular font faces to come from a > particular font, be in a particular size or of a particular colour, > shape ... Nice, but not real practical for my purposes. Thanks for your help. --=20 Florian Beck