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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Edward O'Connor <hober0@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:24:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k5l5yfaj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B61830.6020005@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:54:40 +0000")

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:
> Emacs goes beyond doing the right thing at the moment. The right thing
> would be to guide users into using utf-8 by making that the default
> encoding for *new* XML files, and perhaps warning if an existing file
> was detected as non-utf-8 without a charset declaration in the
> header. Forcing users into using utf-8 by ignoring explicit requests to
> save the file as latin-1 and by opening latin-1 encoded files as utf-8
> even when the decoding fails is not the right behaviour. Our users are
> not slaves to specifications.

Perhaps the "best" thing would be to temporarily do a
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8) when reading xml files without an encoding
header, instead of _forcing_ the coding system to be utf-8.

However it doesn't look like the current Emacs mechanism for
format-specific coding systems (`auto-coding-functions') explicitly
supports functionality.  Maybe sgml-xml-auto-coding-function could use
whatever lower-level function does coding-system-detection using only
the characters in the buffer (I can't seem to find it, but there must be
such a thing...).

-Miles

-- 
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the false and profane writings on which all other faiths are based.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-15 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-15  9:06 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Sébastien Vauban
2008-02-15 22:32 ` Edward O'Connor
2008-02-15 22:54   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:24     ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-02-15 23:34       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:42         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-16  3:42           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  2:49       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-18  3:01         ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16  4:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-16  7:17     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16  9:58       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 11:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16 12:07           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17  3:52             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 14:31               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17 22:24                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 22:27                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  0:07                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:16                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:26                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  6:40                           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19  7:17                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19  7:19                               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19 21:03                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 22:47                                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-19 22:58                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-20  0:43                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 15:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-19 22:02                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18 14:59                           ` Projects and multi-file documents (was: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)) Stefan Monnier
2008-02-18 18:51                             ` Projects and multi-file documents Ralf Angeli
2008-02-18 16:35                   ` 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-16 17:03           ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 17:31             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17  3:53             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:22               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:01                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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