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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: longlines-mode
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:31:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k5kvtthe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v9ve4fwos7.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat\, 23 Feb 2008 18\:44\:40 +0100")

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

> - The default off `longlines-show-hard-newlines' should be changed to
>   t.  When set to nil, there's soft and hard newlines are
>   indistinguishable.  I tried longlines-mode several times, but I
>   found it very hard to use until I discovered this option.

The current default is more familiar to new users, since it is the
behavior in the other editors/editing widgets that longlines-mode
imitates.  I don't know of any other editor that marks hard newlines
by default.

I suspect most of the people concerned about identifying soft vs hard
newlines with a glyph are very experienced Emacs users, who should
have no trouble changing the default.

> - The default value of `longlines-show-effect' is
>   (propertize "|\n" 'face 'escape-glyph).
>
>   `M-x customize-variable RET longlines-show-effect RET' should allow
>   to change only the character (e.g. `|' -> `¶' = "PILCROW SIGN",
>   "PARAGRAPH SIGN", i.e. keep the properties.
>
>   Maybe splitting string and face would make it easier to customize
>   it?

Good idea.

> - As the "old name" of `¶' ("PILCROW SIGN", old name: "PARAGRAPH
>   SIGN", U+00B6, 0xB6) indicates, this symbol might be more suitable
>   as a default in `longlines-show-effect'.  Disadvantage: Is isn't an
>   ASCII character, but I'd guess that > 99% users of Emacs 22+ can
>   display it fine.  As `¶' is more visible than `|', we might want to
>   use a smaller font as well.

I'll play around with it and see how well it works.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-23 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-23 17:44 longlines-mode Reiner Steib
2008-02-23 18:31 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2008-02-23 19:45   ` longlines-mode Juri Linkov
2008-02-23 20:03   ` longlines-mode Reiner Steib
2008-02-23 21:13     ` longlines-mode Chong Yidong
2008-02-27 12:20       ` longlines-mode Johan Bockgård
2008-02-27 16:05         ` longlines-mode David Reitter
2008-02-28  2:58           ` longlines-mode Miles Bader
2008-02-28  7:38             ` longlines-mode David Reitter
2008-02-28  8:01               ` longlines-mode Miles Bader
2008-02-28 16:47               ` longlines-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29 10:47                 ` longlines-mode David Reitter
2008-02-27 16:29         ` longlines-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-02-27 23:21           ` longlines-mode Kim F. Storm
2008-02-27 23:43             ` longlines-mode Johan Bockgård
2008-02-23 19:42 ` longlines-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-02-23 23:09 ` longlines-mode Miles Bader
2008-02-26  2:00   ` longlines-mode Xavier Maillard

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