From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs psychiatrist Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:41:39 +0100 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <87k5jw2fng.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> References: <47E30C9C.9030305@gmail.com> <8763vgtczh.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <47E3BD17.9060004@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206118449 26175 80.91.229.12 (21 Mar 2008 16:54:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 21 17:54:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JckVY-00049K-DS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:54:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JckUx-0001ys-SM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JckUh-0001y8-Ar for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JckUc-0001wk-Jz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JckUc-0001wf-AZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:22 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JckUb-00006D-Q7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JckUV-0003YM-Tb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:53:15 +0000 Original-Received: from e178048219.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.48.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:53:15 +0000 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178048219.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:53:15 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178048219.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YrYy789fa8+LWwyz3aH+rzKs/gQ= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52602 Archived-At: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:50:15 +0100 Lennart Borgman wrote: > Bastien wrote: >> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >> >>> Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Actually, it's not a psychiatrist (obviously: it doesn't prescribe any >>>> drug), just a psychoanalyst. >>> Well, that's incorrect I believe. Shouldn't it be >>> >>> Actually, it's not a psychiatrist (obviously: it doesn't >>> just prescribe some drug), it is a psychoanalyst. >> >> AFAIK there are more psychiatrists that are also psychoanalysts than >> psychoanalysts that are also psychiatrists. So in most of the cases >> the role of the psychiatrists-psychoanalyst is not to "just" >> prescribe >> drugs. > > The condition to check would be if the are more psychiatrists that are > also psychoanalysts then there are psychiatrists that are not also > psychoanalysts. > > And the answer to that seems quite obvious. Psychiatrits often have a > much, much shorter education in psychology than most people would > expect. > > So I guess "just" prescribe is what happens in most cases. Psychoanalysis doesn't play any role in modern psychology. Psychology is mainly applied statistics. And I doubt any serious scientist these days will count psychoanalysis as "science". Check out some Popper or the "light" and understandable comments from Feynman. David