From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Ott Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:14:35 +0200 Organization: Alex Ott's Consulting Message-ID: <87k5elgzdw.fsf@gmail.com> References: <21576055.881601218543663926.JavaMail.www@wwinf4605> <87fxpas637.fsf@jehiel.elehack.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218611713 27254 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2008 07:15:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 09:16:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTAaE-0007zn-4j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:15:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47975 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAZH-0008F1-Lt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAZD-0008Ew-0a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAZA-0008Ek-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34854 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAZA-0008Eh-3O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:43560) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAZ9-0003Ox-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAZ8-0001MK-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1605589fgb.30 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:14:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=SfSI3vQBuw4LSRQDNT+qILcwxpoMa73kVZdzBIxfN98=; b=vIrfz8/YxNho0ug446uekQlOPvwu0taOn0qO1G21jMbjavKXpy38DJ7tkII253pxQR Zfzb4fp6ULh8k8MRJ1zsaiRXCrUsShSsD1nagw5d0mxHLM+Lbvq6TVkwjjyETkOkZVF2 zlQzpfNnVrR5LOYIsRBtmiLe/ihXzZMwBRGO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ZCOsmW6JTzYfaCVFkm1i0oAZQTn8IRxJEi5/zmzJKrf3BnKMW/K2EaHPnHu7qqRt1D 66kXks0e2SjDTjkjbdo2PSA0coXhwandUmcHVJCRzWc188VKlbYzHA2t9hO5E0o+58dF rf2W3ZoqQ7Ph0oz0Dc3hVp1k7CVKbO+e34caE= Original-Received: by 10.103.239.10 with SMTP id q10mr7816676mur.82.1218611680355; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from alexott ( [80.66.20.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm2375268mue.11.2008.08.13.00.14.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:14:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:27:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102398 Archived-At: Hello >>>>> "RMS" == Richard M Stallman writes: RMS> At a U.S. university, I do see Emacs on Windows. One of my RMS> professors used it for demonstrating things from his laptop in RMS> lecture. Other professors use Emacs, and use Windows for some things RMS> (frequently their laptops run Windows). RMS> The real question here is what to do to convince them to stop using RMS> Windows and run GNU/Linux instead. RMS> We can speculate that running Emacs on Windows leads some people to RMS> switch to GNU/Linux. But imagined migration is not our goal; what we RMS> need is for them to migrate in reality. >From my experience - lot of software was developed only for Windows, and there are no analogs in GNU world. I had worked about 2 years under Windows as Software Architect, as was no required modeling documenting tools for Linux, but i also used Emacs to program prototypes. If will no Emacs under windows, i will switch to other tools, and may be leave emacs on other platform, as i need consistent environment over all platforms, not only one -- With best wishes, Alex Ott, MBA http://alexott.blogspot.com/ http://xtalk.msk.su/~ott/ http://alexott-ru.blogspot.com/