From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs 23 & Debian Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:47:27 +1000 Organization: Rapt Technologies Message-ID: <87k52zsd8g.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246003015 31712 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2009 07:56:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:56:55 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 26 09:56:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MK6Ii-0001kM-M4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:56:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MK6Ii-0002Ah-0f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:56:48 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!news.alt.net!news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FN94xIGyf0VV2zYDkvvDcS+nuv0= Original-Lines: 59 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e2fbea62.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=_KC8Sab5PP\]oQN>6; ?:kYL?0kYOcDh@ZfaOMK>_7h[UlL\NbNdK[TYcYNj\9Nk`k^>SY`[KNmnMT Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170324 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:56:02 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65546 Archived-At: Ben Badgley writes: > 1. Where and how may a person upgrade to version 23 for Debian? > > I'm a simple 'go grab a .deb and install it' sort at this point, although > am getting better with using the console. So, please avoid saying cvs or > git, subversion. Have a friend coming over for the weekend who may better > explain that voodoo to me > > 2. Why did the Debian Emacs release come over as a bit hindered? > > Noticed this on the Emacs Wiki threads about Emacs on Debian. It couldn't > sort out what was where, or its version. There was some code to attempt > correcting it posted as well. > > 3. And will future Debian releases of Emacs be so? > > Hope not on this end. > > Just put Francois Romain maintains debian packages of version 23. Go to http://emacs.orebokech for instructions on how to get them. I'm running a mixed testing/unstable version of Debian and have the following in my sources.list file deb http://emacs.orebokech.com sid main deb-src http://emacs.orebokech.com sid main I have no idea what that reference to the wiki is about. I have been running CVS emacs for ages now on Debian without any problems. However, if you do want to be able to use the debian elisp packages, you do need to edit at least the startup.el file to add the Debian specific paths and the emacs-version variable. The emacs-snapshot package from the site above has already done this, so it will work with all the pre-built debian emacs packages. The emacs snapshot packages from the above site are re-built and updated every couple of weeks or so, which means they stay relatively current with the latest CVS version. Ive been running either the Debian emacs packages or the ones from the above site since 2001 and have found nothing 'hindered' about the Debian version. This comment probably is based largely on the fact that Debian does its emacs packaging so that you can run multiple different versions of emacs on the same system at the same time without them treading on each others toes. some consider this makes things too complicated, but I've personally found it very handy and its not caused any issues for me. Sometimes, its useful to be able to bring up emacs 21 or 22 or 23 or xemacs - especially if your developing some elisp and you want to test compatibility. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au